I Don't Apologize For It

Hello All!

I apologize in advance if this been discussed already.I was just curious to know your opinions when it comes to "Burning" cd's,movies or games.We all know it's illegal,but c'mon,it's a pretty hard law to enforce,and a lot of us certainly aren't angels,especially if the good people who's job it is to enforce these laws dabble in the very same activity. :mp

I have on occasion copied some audio material.I'm certainly not alone when doing this,and yes technically it's illegal,but in my opinion,the wing-nuts that are responsible for pricing these items are as greedy as they come,and they certainly don't care about the insane prices they charge,so that makes me feel a lot less guilty.How about you?


God Bless,
MR.KAZ


P.S. If there are any kind of Internet police reading this,I was speaking Hypothetically.

How's it going Mr. Kaz?

Everyone's either downloaded music or listened to it without paying at some point before. Myspace is launching a campaign to have EVERY song from EVERY artist for free on their myspaces. This most certainly will be a huge struggle for them, but if it happens, there's not much reason to buy a CD. Plus, bands and artists make a ton off of other merchandise and concerts as well. That's just my two cents though.

I'm not gunna lie, I have dabbled in the practice of piracy in the past. I have alot of music and movies that I could only get from that because, it hasn't been released on a format I could get otherwise. But, I try to buy them whenever they are released even though I already have the files already on my computer.

Hell, I was on cnet the other day and right on the front page was a guide on how to capture streaming audio. As we continue on with technology it's going to get tougher to protect music and such from being pirated. There are some stuff already out there such as DRM and the stuff EA has done with Spore but, I feel insulted that they have that because right off the bat you are accused of being a pirate even when you bought that product.

MR.KAZ said:

P.S. If there are any kind of Internet police reading this,I was speaking Hypothetically.

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8.) Any posting of material that can be deemed as illegal is not allowed. This includes scams, ways to commit crimes as stated in local, state and federal laws, etc.

As long as we are discussing piracy in general terms, and not providing a means with which to do so, we should be alright. No links, though.


When downloading music it is important to remember the people who created that music need to get paid for their work if you want them to keep making music. However, as Frodus pointed out, technology has changed how we listen to and acquire music, even through completely legal means. Back in the day, what seems like a long time ago now, artists relied on record labels for distribution. Now the internet ensures you can hear the music of a little known band halfway around the world. Record Labels would also provide bands with studio recording time. While this is still the best way to get the best quality of audio, current consumer computer software can turn anyone's computer into a digital recording studio. Bands can now cut out all the middle men and reap the fruits of their labor directly by distributing their own digital media over the internet, even for free. As Strubes pointed out, if a band is good enough, and enough people hear their music, they'll buy tickets to see them perform live, and will probably buy some merchandise from them as well.

When radio first began to broadcast music, a lot of record labels were afraid of piracy, claiming that it was illegal to broadcast copyrighted material for free and such. But it was radio that lead to the great boom of the recording industry, creating the first international music stars like Elvis. A symbiotic relationship between music creators and music patrons needs to exist in some form, and just pirating music for free does not meet that end, but it won't exist in the same form it has.

See, Kaz, once again, you're saying companies are greedy, but you're the one expecting everything to be free. :/

Most services that offer free downloads also run a high risk of giving your computer viruses. This is one reason why I have forgone such a thing, and only get my music through legit means now. I either buy the CD or buy songs through the Zune marketplace.

I used to download music, though. In most cases, it was the kind of thing where I only liked one song from a certain singer, so I didn't want to buy the whole CD for just one song. But, that was also before I had a Zune, so I didn't have the option of something like Zune marketplace.

MR.KAZ said:

P.S. If there are any kind of Internet police reading this,I was speaking Hypothetically.

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I only have one thing to say to this, ya punks...




I AM DA LAW!!!!!!!!!

fhqwhgads said:

See, Kaz, once again, you're saying companies are greedy, but you're the one expecting everything to be free. :/

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That's not true.I have to pay for the blank discs. :lol 0

Blank CDRs are intended for recording of original work, hold pictures, etc. In other words, I create a song, I lay it out, I record it, I have the right to copy it on a CDR. Home movies? I can throw them on DVDRs.

The worst I do is rip the CDs I purchase onto my computer. Why? I often leave my CDs in my truck. I also have a nasty habit of losing CDs. I even ran over one once after it fell out of my truck.

Around here people usually make back-up copies of their CDs to keep in the car for the same reason, Dart. I usually rip my CDs onto the PC to put on my MP3 player, but that's it. I don't have anything illegal on my computer any more.

Joyling said:

Around here people usually make back-up copies of their CDs to keep in the car for the same reason, Dart. I usually rip my CDs onto the PC to put on my MP3 player, but that's it. I don't have anything illegal on my computer any more.

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Ah, good for you!

MR.KAZ said:

,but in my opinion,the wing-nuts that are responsible for pricing these items are as greedy as they come,and they certainly don't care about the insane prices they charge,so that makes me feel a lot less guilty.How about you?


God Bless,
MR.KAZ

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I don't personally have anything at all against downloading stuff etc, but on the other hand, I think that people should get paid for their work, and I don't really think that "It's over priced" is all that great of an excuse...cuz if you don't think the price is fair...then just don't get that product.

I think that people providing a service or product should be free to set their own prices, so I guess I disagree with the statement you made.

I dont know if its illegal or not, but sometime i borrow CD's from my friends and put them on my iPod, and sometimes i play music off YouTube and record it and put it on my iPod.

Burining CD's is illigal? Since when? I didn't know that! I'm just gald I never did it then.

You don't understand how copying music for free distribution is bad?

Fire$ickle said:

Burining CD's is illigal? Since when? I didn't know that! I'm just gald I never did it then.

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fhqwhgads said:

You don't understand how copying music for free distribution is bad?

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Burning CD's, in literal terms, isn't bad, or illegal, at all. If it was then CD/DVD burners would be harder to find...

On the related note of piracy and so forth, specifically relating to video games, some interesting things have popped up recently via Penny Arcade. With respect to Spore's inclusion of DRM, Daniel James, the owner/operator of http://www.threerings.net/ had this, among other things, to say on the subject;

It's perhaps easy to stand in the server-side tower, printing coin of the realm and lording it over a bit-mountain. One of online games' many business model advantages is sidestepping DRM questions by maintaining the canonical database that is highly valued by members of the community.

'Not fair', the vendor of music or packaged software cries. Well, tough [expletive deleted]. Nobody added your business to the list of protected species, despite what your lobbyists and lawyers say. Find a business model that's actually appropriate to the 21st century, and perhaps scale back your expectations of vast profits accordingly (oh, and fire some lawyers and lobbyists, too, please). For example, as some musicians have done by returning to live performance as their main source of revenue.

... Everything should be shareware to be tried and tested until its value is proven and the love-meter swings open the wallet.

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I agree.

stealth toilet said:

I agree.

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I'm with ya. I may have stated before but, I shall say it anyway. DRM pisses me off so much the way that Spore was used. From day one you are limited to installations and are technically labeled a pirate from the get go. Sure, I admit I have dabbled in the pirate life and have left the majority of it behind but, I feel insulted when they do what they do in the case of Spore.