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Today... it was reported that The coalition killed 125 and captured 88:
Coalition Kills 125 Insurgents in Samarra

Now.... IMO this is a good thing.

If you saw lately.... these idiots blew up children while the military was handing out candy.

What the HEll?! I mean... seriously.... what kind of person blows up children ..... let alone of their own kind?
The insurgency has been blowing up iraqi people as well as beheading them for taking a job and working (see the story... there is a little excerpt (spelling?) about an Iraqi construction working beahded because he worked on a US base)..... and the Iraqi people are finally starting to get mad at the resistance.

I seriously hope we whoop some more butt over there..... and take out these idiots.

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I feel the same way BV. Killing kids is the ultimate sin and they will pay for it gravely. It's sad that I actually like to hear about these killers getting killed but I have absolutely no remorse. I hope they suffer....
 
Ya, normally I try to appreciate where the other side is coming from, even with terrorist/guerrilla tactics, and I try to keep an open mind, but there's just no excuse for that.
 
you know.... I don't want this turning into a "reconing" thread :lol

I am not the person to say which judgement a person is to have....

but really.... I just think its sick that they could target kids trying to get candy.

What friggin turd would do that?

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I agree that they need to be stopped, but it honestly frightens me...I don't even think they CAN be stopped. They're like a whole religion that aren't afraid of dying.
 
its not so scary to me... I know where I am going when I die...

but its sad because all these innocent people die for nothing. These people are killing for religious reasons that mean NOTHING.
They are nothing more than brain washed fools.... blowing themselves up for ...... nothing.

Its just totally ridiculous.

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Well, they don't belive they're dieing for nothing, just as you believe your not BV. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying what they did was right in any way, but theior religious beliefs are just as valid as yours.
 
To hell with religion. I'm sorry, but when innocent people are being brutally killed like this, there's no excuse. I don't care what they say, they're evil and should rot.
 
this is an evil act..... I agree.

I do not think that Evil acts should be "valid" even if they are religious.

Then you could say.. satanism is just as valid as Christianity. .... sure people can believe what they want in the free world.... but being valid... basically means validated, or tried and true. No... that is wrong.

back to the topic at hand.. there will be no arguments here :)

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I don't want to get in an arguement either, but to say they are "blowing themselves up for nothing" is like saying you're throwing away an hour of your life in church for nothing. I'm sorry, but its ignorance that breeds hatred, not religion.
 
But they are blowing themselves up for nothing... look what they are blowing up... women, children... their own kind.  IT would be something else if they were trying to just blow us up... but they don't care who it is.... that is non-sense in the highest form.
and their religion "sect" just breeds hatred and ignorance at the same time.



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BV, I wholeheartedly agree.

Killing innocent people is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a non-evil act. Sitting in church for an hour doesn't harm anything.
 
Look, I'm not saying that I agree with what they're doing, but they are dieing for something they believe in. Whether you believe it or not doesn't matter. The fact that you hear about these bombings on the 6 o'clock news on a different continent means that they did die for something, even if it's not something you agree with. No human being can simply kill themselves for no reason at all, it's impossible. Just try for one moment to understand why these people are killing themselves like this. I'm sure there's a lot more to it than "nothing".
 
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Look, I'm not saying that I agree with what they're doing, but they are dieing for something they believe in. Whether you believe it or not doesn't matter. The fact that you hear about these bombings on the 6 o'clock news on a different continent means that they did die for something, even if it's not something you agree with. No human being can simply kill themselves for no reason at all, it's impossible. Just try for one moment to understand why these people are killing themselves like this. I'm sure there's a lot more to it than "nothing".
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yeah... they kill those that spread freedom.

They kill people because they want to spread chaos and fear.

They behead people to destroy alliances of help.

do you see a lot of something in that?

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yeah... they kill those that spread freedom.
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If an invading force from another country bombed my city and instituted martial law I would be a little ticked off too. I mean, I like living in Canada, and if the U.S. took over not much would really change from my day to day life, but I'd be very pissed off that we couldn't have our indepedence and run our country the way we wanted to, and I'm positive the same would apply to you too. America is spreading your definition of freedom, you are forcing your culture on another, it's a prime example of assimilation, and no one wants to be assimilated.

They kill people because they want to spread chaos and fear.

They behead people to destroy alliances of help
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They are fighting an enemy that is better armed, technologically advanced, better trained, and well supplied. They are using the only weapons they have, and fear is one of them. Guerilla tactics have been used in many wars before this one when the enemy had a much larger force. Take the American revolution for example. British troops were very good at marching in formation and defeating their enemy on an open plain, so American commanders would stick to ambushes and forests and use the terrain to their advantage to surprise British forces. Fear is an element of war. They are fighting for their independence just as Americans did. I don't want to draw too many parallels between the two because they were different in circumstances, but I'm just trying to get you to set your biases aside and just try and understand why they're going to such extremes.

do you see a lot of something in that?
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Yes, I do. I do not agree with what they are doing and as I said before, there is really no excuse for it, but I'm just trying to say that if the situation were reversed, would we really act so differently than them? Would we not try to institute fear in an invading army ?
 
its hard to say (on our behalf) "if the situations were reversed"

The don't have independence.... they never did. The resistance is fighting Independence.
Its just not the same Stealth.... the people there did not have freedom... the freedom to choose..or anything like that.

We cannot just say.... if the situations were reversed because their old lifestyle was miles different than a free lifestyle we get to live.


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Well in their religion the belief is that suicide bombers will go to Allah, isn't it?

From their perspective, they are doing something heroic by making themselves suicide bombers.

I think they're just delusional.
 
Mai Valentine said:
Well in their religion the belief is that suicide bombers will go to Allah, isn't it?

From their perspective, they are doing something heroic by making themselves suicide bombers.

I think they're just delusional.
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well... Muslim's are not supposed to be like that......

Its almost like a cult in America..... you know... the Heaven's Gate Cult... or some crap like that.

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I agree it's hard to draw parallels between the two, and my initial intention was not to resort to that, lol, but I guess I broke down somewhere along the way. I'm just a firm believer that we should try to understand what the other side's motives are. Once we start doing that then we can come up with more permanent solutions than armed guards. It's just a shame that our cultures are so different, and that we really can't put ourselves in their shoes.
 
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