Neo Geo CD modded aesvd cdz
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Bluevoodu
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Honestly, the NEo Geo CD looks better out of the box than most modded AES systems. Now... there is some new modded AES system I haven't seen yet that does 480i or something like that.
But all the component / s-video mods that I have seen
are the same or not up to par with the Neo CD out of the box (S-video on the Neo CD that is. The A/V is not near as good).
BV :hat
But all the component / s-video mods that I have seen
are the same or not up to par with the Neo CD out of the box (S-video on the Neo CD that is. The A/V is not near as good).
BV :hat
All game systems outputs 480i. Its 640x480 pixels, interlaced.
Simple RF cables are the worst quality, with all signals going through the same "pipe".
Composit cables (red/white/yellow "rca") split the audio into two seperate cable (left and right) and the video into its own cable (yellow). Sound is greatly improved, video is improved as well, but not perfect.
S-Video divides the video information into two separate signals: one for color (chrominance), and the other for brightness (luminance). The audio is the typical red/white stereo cable.
Component uses 3 cables for the video. Red/Green/Blue. The Green cable contains brightness (luminance). The Blue and Red cables contain the color (chrominance) information. Its taking S-Video another step further.
All of these produce "480i".
Component however, can also support 480p (640x480 progressive), 720p (1280x720 progressive) and 1080i (1920x1080 interlaced). There is absolutly no support for this with the Neo Geo hardware BTW.
Interlaced mean it draws all the odd horizontal lines in one pass, then all the even ones in the next pass. Progressive draws all of the lines in one pass. So 480p has twice as much information on the screen at a time than 480i. Thats why DVDs look twice as good on an HDTV, twice as much info is displayed at any given moment. Same with most Xbox games on an HDTV.
Hope this answers more questions than it raises.
note: The Neo-Geo was never meant to do any better than 480i, so in the US at least, S-Video is pretty much as good as it can get (and it looks fantastic BTW).
also note: since the Neo Geo came from the factory with S-Video output, it likely looks superior to a modded AES system. A computer can likely make far better soddering (?) joints than a shakey hand and a $3 wood burner.
edit: correct the explaination of Component.
Simple RF cables are the worst quality, with all signals going through the same "pipe".
Composit cables (red/white/yellow "rca") split the audio into two seperate cable (left and right) and the video into its own cable (yellow). Sound is greatly improved, video is improved as well, but not perfect.
S-Video divides the video information into two separate signals: one for color (chrominance), and the other for brightness (luminance). The audio is the typical red/white stereo cable.
Component uses 3 cables for the video. Red/Green/Blue. The Green cable contains brightness (luminance). The Blue and Red cables contain the color (chrominance) information. Its taking S-Video another step further.
All of these produce "480i".
Component however, can also support 480p (640x480 progressive), 720p (1280x720 progressive) and 1080i (1920x1080 interlaced). There is absolutly no support for this with the Neo Geo hardware BTW.
Interlaced mean it draws all the odd horizontal lines in one pass, then all the even ones in the next pass. Progressive draws all of the lines in one pass. So 480p has twice as much information on the screen at a time than 480i. Thats why DVDs look twice as good on an HDTV, twice as much info is displayed at any given moment. Same with most Xbox games on an HDTV.
Hope this answers more questions than it raises.
note: The Neo-Geo was never meant to do any better than 480i, so in the US at least, S-Video is pretty much as good as it can get (and it looks fantastic BTW).
also note: since the Neo Geo came from the factory with S-Video output, it likely looks superior to a modded AES system. A computer can likely make far better soddering (?) joints than a shakey hand and a $3 wood burner.
edit: correct the explaination of Component.
Bluevoodu
Site Founder
:lol good analogykgenthe said:
:lolbut honestly.. there are people out there that do a great mod job.
Good explanation on everything. So what I don't get it.... why are these "new elite" mod jobs saying 480i output... while the older ones are not?
Maybe I missed the differences of the mod job.
BV :hat
Why are they advertising 480i? To get your attention and make you buy their product 
All american TV is 480i, period. How that signal gets to your TV can differ (see above post).
But seriously, its all a gimmick. You may get a "marginally" better picture with the component mod, but I beleive around 10% of america has a TV with component inputs anyway, so its benefits very few people.
note: Since all these are analog signals, the quality of your cable can make a big difference as well. A cheap $5 Wal-Mart cable cannot compete with a top of the line Monster cable.
All american TV is 480i, period. How that signal gets to your TV can differ (see above post).But seriously, its all a gimmick. You may get a "marginally" better picture with the component mod, but I beleive around 10% of america has a TV with component inputs anyway, so its benefits very few people.
note: Since all these are analog signals, the quality of your cable can make a big difference as well. A cheap $5 Wal-Mart cable cannot compete with a top of the line Monster cable.
Bluevoodu
Site Founder
:lol I just use the radio shak s-video cable..... I think that looks very nice!
For my Nintendo systems, I have a HARD TO FIND Nintendo brand S-video cable that I got for $25.... yeah... $25. Itwas in Super Nintendo packaging though. I have never seen one... so I decided to pick it up (yea... I 'm like that sometimes :lol)
I tell you what, I get a NICE picture with my Gamecube... it looks great via S-video.... I couldn't believe the difference. It might be a bigger difference than the Neo CD from AV top SV.. and we all know how big of a difference that is. I mean... the color was SOOO vibrant. It was actually amazing :lol
I guess I misunderstood the mod then. It seemed that it offered 480i... but reading what you wrote clears things up a lot!
Nice post
BV :hat
For my Nintendo systems, I have a HARD TO FIND Nintendo brand S-video cable that I got for $25.... yeah... $25. Itwas in Super Nintendo packaging though. I have never seen one... so I decided to pick it up (yea... I 'm like that sometimes :lol)
I tell you what, I get a NICE picture with my Gamecube... it looks great via S-video.... I couldn't believe the difference. It might be a bigger difference than the Neo CD from AV top SV.. and we all know how big of a difference that is. I mean... the color was SOOO vibrant. It was actually amazing :lol
I guess I misunderstood the mod then. It seemed that it offered 480i... but reading what you wrote clears things up a lot!
Nice post
BV :hat
I'm fairly certain the SNES, N64, and GCN all use the same A/V cables. I guess it saves the Big N money or something, who knows, nice find!
I do the same thing though, I was at a used gaming/cd/dvd place the other day, and saw 2 Cybermorph Jaguar carts and bought them both on the spot. I don't know why I would need two of them... but I bough them both anyway
I do the same thing though, I was at a used gaming/cd/dvd place the other day, and saw 2 Cybermorph Jaguar carts and bought them both on the spot. I don't know why I would need two of them... but I bough them both anyway
Bluevoodu
Site Founder
:lol dang.... thats hard to find anymore.
yeah.. .the gamecube / snes / N64 all use the same A/V.... Which is cool because they all can accept the S/V cable I got as well.
Odd thing....... The Nintendo 64 ACTUALLY looks better with A/V. You see more imperfections with S/V (at least in Zelda Ocarina of TIme... )..... but the Gamecube looks great with S/V. never did try component with it yet.
The Super Nintendo.... looks about the same A/V or S/V .... not sure why they would have made the S/V for the Super Nintendo. I have only seen the one that I bought.... I never have seen another Nintendo brand *IN BOX.. I have seen the bulk in baggy* S/video cable.
Bv :hat
yeah.. .the gamecube / snes / N64 all use the same A/V.... Which is cool because they all can accept the S/V cable I got as well.
Odd thing....... The Nintendo 64 ACTUALLY looks better with A/V. You see more imperfections with S/V (at least in Zelda Ocarina of TIme... )..... but the Gamecube looks great with S/V. never did try component with it yet.
The Super Nintendo.... looks about the same A/V or S/V .... not sure why they would have made the S/V for the Super Nintendo. I have only seen the one that I bought.... I never have seen another Nintendo brand *IN BOX.. I have seen the bulk in baggy* S/video cable.
Bv :hat