PS2 games a possibility?

CreepinDeth said:
If I remember correctly the 360 version looks better, Eurogamer did a comparison for this game too. The only thing that looks better in that game is the FMVs since Blu-ray allows them to be less compressed due to the space availability. I'll try to find the article.

UPDATE: Scratch that. FF XIII is one of the very few that looks better on PS3.
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yeah i just digged the article... it is because square-enix used an engine that was mostly designed for the ps3 if i am not mistaken. so unless the game was designed from the ground up on the ps3 the port will look slightly worse than the 360.

though it seems porting from ps3 to 360 makes a bigger difference... i am beginning to think porting games from 360 to ps3 is not such a bad idea....since the difference is minuscule in comparison with porting from ps3 to 360
 
Zidart said:
yeah i just digged the article... it is because square-enix used an engine that was mostly designed for the ps3 if i am not mistaken. so unless the game was designed from the ground up on the ps3 the port will look slightly worse than the 360
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Correct, the engine was built for the PS3.
 
CreepinDeth said:
Correct, the engine was built for the PS3.
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Problem is that most of the multiplats have 360 as the lead console to develop for with the few exceptions like FFXIII and Vanquish
 
Snatcher_L said:
Problem is that most of the multiplats have 360 as the lead console to develop for with the few exceptions like FFXIII and Vanquish
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It's not that it's the lead console (although it is true for most games,) it's that the 360 is a lot friendlier to existing engines. The FFXIII engine was a brand new engine that utilizes the PS3. The fact that they were still able to port it with a completely different engine shows that the 360 is no slouch.
 
CreepinDeth said:
It's not that it's the lead console (although it is true for most games,) it's that the 360 is a lot friendlier to existing engines. The FFXIII engine was a brand new engine that utilizes the PS3. The fact that they were still able to port it with a completely different engine shows that the 360 is no slouch.
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Yeah that's true, pretty much the Ps3 is the Saturn of this gen. Can get some great stuff but harder to work with than the rest.
 
CreepinDeth said:
It is minuscule, which is why I mentioned that it's not by much. But I recommend you read Eurogamers Face-offs. Nearly every single game, with the exception of maybe 3, the 360 game looked better. They even have side-by-side videos to prove it.

Now I'm not saying that the differences are enough to say that the 360 is superior and you shouldn't buy a PS3 copy. But technically, the 360 port is the better looking game because of the graphics processor. PS3 anti-aliasing actually blurs out a lot of the textures. Not to mention that most PS3 ports don't even get true 720p resolutions. They also have to take out some effects usually due to the PS3s video processor unable to handle them.

With all that said, you would have to be looking for it and/or just have a good eye. When I went to school I learned a lot about video and these issues do stick out to me unfortunately. At the moment though, it seems the only PS3 games that look better are the ones that are exclusive to the PS3.
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Ah, Eurogamer does the same thing as Gametrailers I see. Along with the side by side videos, which proved nearly half looked better on PS3, and half look better on the 360. :)

But like it was said, it's a very minuscule difference.
 
Strubes said:
Along with the side by side videos, which proved nearly half looked better on PS3, and half look better on the 360. :)
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Which are the "half" that look better? Eurogamer has them nearly all except for around 3 that look better with the 360.

I'll take a look at the GameTrailers videos.
 
CreepinDeth said:
Which are the "half" that look better? Eurogamer has them nearly all except for around 3 that look better with the 360.

I'll take a look at the GameTrailers videos.
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I don't think they pick, because it's really all about which YOU perceive is the better looking one. One could be more vivid, where the other is more crisp. However, when I see reviews in Game Informer and other sites/mags, they'll say either or looks better in the review. It's not as one-sided as you think.
 
Strubes said:
I don't think they pick, because it's really all about which YOU perceive is the better looking one. One could be more vivid, where the other is more crisp. However, when I see reviews in Game Informer and other sites/mags, they'll say either or looks better in the review. It's not as one-sided as you think.
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From what I've been reading from Eurogamer, it pretty much is. They've proven that most PS3 ports aren't even in 720p, use a bad AA technique that blurs out textures and have more frame-rate drops. They're actually looking at it through a video engineers eyes.

But I agree with you that it is minuscule for the most part. I'm not telling people that these gamers are horrible and that you should only get the 360 version (I actually just purchased the PS3 RE5 Gold Edition, which has all these flaws.) I'm just saying that "Technically" the 360 ports look better because it's closer to a vanilla PC than a PS3. When a PS3 title uses an engine that is built for it, then the PS3 version is definitely going to look better.
 
CreepinDeth said:
From what I've been reading from Eurogamer, it pretty much is. They've proven that most PS3 ports aren't even in 720p, use a bad AA technique that blurs out textures and have more frame-rate drops. They're actually looking at it through a video engineers eyes.

But I agree with you that it is minuscule for the most part. I'm not telling people that these gamers are horrible and that you should only get the 360 version (I actually just purchased the PS3 RE5 Gold Edition, which has all these flaws.) I'm just saying that "Technically" the 360 ports look better because it's closer to a vanilla PC than a PS3. When a PS3 title uses an engine that is built for it, then the PS3 version is definitely going to look better.
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I'll just respectfully disagree.
 
I dont think thats valid in this day and age. Developers learned how to make the game shine on each system respectively and all but the laziest of developers still have that issue. In a majority of the most recent side by side comparisons, the difference between versions comes down to how good your eyesight is an choosing which level of brightness one feels is better.

Now there are a few light and dark differences with stuff like Final Fantasy XIII, but that game was in development since like >+ 3 years and Bayonetta (Platinums first multiplatform HD console game).

I think the way CreepinD describes it makes it seem like things are in such starch differences. And it isnt like there are X360 exclusive games that run below even 500p...

But isnt this all well beyond PS2 games possibly...I think PS2 will be explored in a digital sense and not a disc based setup. I think the majority of owners do not actually care for or even desire it. Sure the online people are vocal but that cant represent the majority opinion. It would probably be more efficient to companies to do the collection based rereleases based on what consumers actually want.
 
Starrynite said:
I think the way CreepinD describes it makes it seem like things are in such starch differences. And it isnt like there are X360 exclusive games that run below even 500p...
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Actually, I'm just explaining that there is a measurable way to determine whether it actually is better or not. If it wasn't measurable, then I'm pretty sure Eurogamer wouldn't have bothered in the first place. But again, I've already agreed and stated that the differences are minuscule and you would either have to look at the game side-by-side or just have a really good eye. I'm not discouraging anyone from buying PS3 games because of minor differences.

I'm not trying to defend the 360 itself and claim it's the better system. I know there are 360 games out there that don't run at 720p (Halo 3 anyone?)

It really doesn't have to do with laziness. It has to do with the fact that because a 360 is much closer to a consumer PC, that most existing game engines will just run better. The PS3 graphics processor is meant to be utilized differently than how game engines of today run.

I hope that explains it from me. :)

Again, to reiterate, I'm not discouraging the PS3 and claiming it to be inferior. But there is measurable proof that ports are usually slightly, and I do stress slightly, inferior on the PS3.
 
CreepinDeth said:
Actually, I'm just explaining that there is a measurable way to determine whether it actually is better or not. If it wasn't measurable, then I'm pretty sure Eurogamer wouldn't have bothered in the first place. But again, I've already agreed and stated that the differences are minuscule and you would either have to look at the game side-by-side or just have a really good eye. I'm not discouraging anyone from buying PS3 games because of minor differences.

I'm not trying to defend the 360 itself and claim it's the better system. I know there are 360 games out there that don't run at 720p (Halo 3 anyone?)

It really doesn't have to do with laziness. It has to do with the fact that because a 360 is much closer to a consumer PC, that most existing game engines will just run better. The PS3 graphics processor is meant to be utilized differently than how game engines of today run.

I hope that explains it from me. :)

Again, to reiterate, I'm not discouraging the PS3 and claiming it to be inferior. But there is measurable proof that ports are usually slightly, and I do stress slightly, inferior on the PS3.
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if it makes you feel any better I understood your message XD.
 
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