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Hi Everyone,

Just for the record,I am in no way trying to promote the material that's contained in these "Shock Sites",personally I find them disturbing and quite haunting,I admit I was curious and it got the best of me,and I made the mistake of viewing some "Beheading" videos,HUGE MISTAKE.Although I've gotten over the initial shock,sadly I can't seem to forget them.

However,I believe that one of subjects in the above mentioned site(s) does deserve recognition as well providing tremendous and quite possibly educational shock value because of the the graphic nature of the pictures and videos.The topic I'm referring to is "Drinking and Driving".I have absolutely no pity or compassion for drunk drivers.Last year my older sister was pulled over because she was driving almost in the middle of the road,half on the yellow line.

She was charged and punished for driving drunk.Don't get me wrong,she's my sister and I love her,but when you're drinking,stay the hell out of the car!If she had have hit someone and God forbid killed someone it would have been horrible.With all this in mind some people still do the same darn thing,especially younger drivers.Yes the images of car accidents can be very gruesome and disturbing,very difficult if not impossible to forget.

But for this reason I think these disturbing pictures and videos although horrible,serve as an awesome deterrent to the younger people who think they're made of steel and can do anything they want including operating a vehicle while under the influence.Due to the Forum regulations I can't include any of these images,but I ask you this:Would any of you as a parent show these horrible images to your children to give them an idea as to what can happen if you drink and drive,or would you rather wait and until you see one of your own children being scooped up in the middle of the highway somewhere because the driver was too intoxicated to drive properly?

I believe there is a strong chance that one of the moderators might not let this topic stay in the forum,but is it any worse to sweep it under the carpet and hope this problem will magically disappear?

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MR.KAZ
 
I would show the wrecked vehicles and stuff, but I wouldn't show pictures of mangled bodies. No way! I think the wrecked vehicles would be more than enough to show the horrors of drunk driving.
 
x2 said:
I would show the wrecked vehicles and stuff, but I wouldn't show pictures of mangled bodies. No way! I think the wrecked vehicles would be more than enough to show the horrors of drunk driving.
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Thank you for your reply x2,people see wrecked cars on tv and around the city depending where you live,although those images of the mangled car certainly send a warning as to what can happen if you or someone else drives drunk,people watch tv shows,read news papers,and occasionally drive by a wrecked car on their way to work it doesn't phase them one bit.Yes the mangled bodies are disturbing to look at,and it's possible you will never get that gruesome sight out of your head,but as time passes the initial shock goes away,and you come to realize that something so tragic and hard to look at is the very tool that can make the difference between driving friends home for the night after a party,or some poor parent having to see their own child being scooped off the road and put in garbage bags.


I understand that this is not the most pleasent subject,but wake up!! you can't just tap your child or someone else on the shoulder to get your point across any more,these days are very dangerous,would you rather your child look at a gory picture of a body or two mangled beyond repair because someone was drunk and gotten into an accident,or would you want to witness the police and ambulance techs scoop up your own flesh and blood off the highway.

Ask a mother who belongs to M.A.D.D. what she thinks.

God bless
 
I still think images of dead bodies do more harm than good. People know how bad a body gets mangled in an accident, it's simply not going to stop them from driving drunk. For example people see images of dying cancer patients and it doesn't stop them from smoking, it just disturbs them. I understand you have good intentions, but I just don't think it would do any good. People have that "invincible" attitude where we think it won't happen to us. We see it happen to others but we feel like we are somehow immune to it.
 
x2 said:
I still think images of dead bodies do more harm than good. People know how bad a body gets mangled in an accident, it's simply not going to stop them from driving drunk. For example people see images of dying cancer patients and it doesn't stop them from smoking, it just disturbs them. I understand you have good intentions, but I just don't think it would do any good. People have that "invincible" attitude where we think it won't happen to us. We see it happen to others but we feel like we are somehow immune to it.
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Hi x2,

you make a good point,but let me ask you this: Would you rather show your child or teenager a gruesome photo they won't soon forget,but possibly shocking enough to remind them of what can happen if you drive drunk,that image you show them may be disturbing,but,it could also save his or her life.Or if you want,you walk up and down the stretch of highway helping the boys collect pieces of your own flesh and blood and put them in a garbage bag.
 
MR.KAZ said:
Hi x2,

you make a good point,but let me ask you this: Would you rather show your child or teenager a gruesome photo they won't soon forget,but possibly shocking enough to remind them of what can happen if you drive drunk,that image you show them may be disturbing,but,it could also save his or her life.Or if you want,you walk up and down the stretch of highway helping the boys collect pieces of your own flesh and blood and put them in a garbage bag.
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I would rather not show them a gruesome photo at all. I would rather raise them to be smart enough to not ever drink and drive. I think proper parenting and guidance would be the best option. I guess we are just different in that respect. I mean, you can say all the horrible things in the world like "scraping up your child's flesh" but it's not going to change my opinion on this. I do not mean to offend you because I know you mean well, I am just going off personal experience and from what I know, "shock and awe" simply does not work on teens. I think those mangled body photos should be kept private and not viewed by anybody.
 
x2 said:
I would rather not show them a gruesome photo at all. I would rather raise them to be smart enough to not ever drink and drive. I think proper parenting and guidance would be the best option. I guess we are just different in that respect. I mean, you can say all the horrible things in the world like "scraping up your child's flesh" but it's not going to change my opinion on this. I do not mean to offend you because I know you mean well, I am just going off personal experience and from what I know, "shock and awe" simply does not work on teens. I think those mangled body photos should be kept private and not viewed by anybody.
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Long time no type,

I admit I'm not a parent,but don't you think that showing these images to your children is an excellent way to quite possibly,save their lives,however graphic.Is that not good parenting
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MR.KAZ said:
Long time no type,

I admit I'm not a parent,but don't you think that showing these images to your children is an excellent way to quite possibly,save their lives,however graphic.Is that not good parenting
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eh is hard to agree or disagre....becuase you know nowadays teens/young adults are too stubborn to learn how horrible a car accident is, however if the person doesn't learn his lesson with the usual "drink not drive lessons" (wich were enough for me) i think showing them shock images woud be enough to shock them.....but then again if my parents showed me something like that i wouldn't be able to sleep ever again o_o so it really depends of what type of son/daughter your dealing with....whatever you need to keep them alive and out of exhibition on those sites.
 
I don't know about what goes on in other states, but here in California when I was in high school (I won't say how long ago that was lol) they showed a film called Red Asphalt to kids in Driving class. We all saw it, it shows gruesome photos and video of the effects of reckless driving including driving under the influence.

It did nothing to shock us kids. As a matter of fact NO ONE ditched that day because everyone wanted to see the movie. The effect was not sobering, shocked realization of the danger. The kids liked it, they were more excited and amused by seeing something so "taboo". I remember the popularity in those years of the "Faces of Death" videos (wow, now I'm dating myself lol) at that time as well. I don't think that those kinds of shocking images do much to shock anyone except those who are most likely already sensitive to those kinds of images.

I think proper parental training and discipline (not corporal punishment but reasoning and teaching ones child) would go a lot further than showing a couple of pictures to kids.
 
Zidart said:
eh is hard to agree or disagre....becuase you know nowadays teens/young adults are too stubborn to learn how horrible a car accident is, however if the person doesn't learn his lesson with the usual "drink not drive lessons" (wich were enough for me) i think showing them shock images woud be enough to shock them.....but then again if my parents showed me something like that i wouldn't be able to sleep ever again o_o so it really depends of what type of son/daughter your dealing with....whatever you need to keep them alive and out of exhibition on those sites.
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Your bed is way more comfortable then a coffin.
 
Oh, I did not notice this topic before.

I will give my personal opinion, whether right or wrong....

I have kids, and I do not intend to show them any vids of mangled bodies. I won't stop them from watching vids like that...they can. But I won't do it.


Here are my reasons...first of all...someone I loved a ton got killed and mangled in a car accident a long time ago. I would NEVER ever want anyone to see a pic of that kid as a "warning" or "training" vid. That seems almost like raping him er something. It just makes me extremely unhappy to even think of that happening.

Secondly, I myself love bloody gory movies full of death and destruction... BUT I cannot handle seeing stuff where REAL people get hurt. It takes something out of me, like hacking at my brain with a hammer er something. I am just not strong enough to want to see any real people get hurt.

Also, I have never seen any mangled people but I have never driven drunk, even though I have been drunk. I do not drive drunk cuz I like to be responsible. I just make sure that while I am drinking I am in an environment and setting that is completely safe to me in every way and where I know there is a sober adult, such as my sister or my hubby, etc.

I know people in the past who try to train their kids by exposing em to stuff (in various areas), but I have not seen that ever work. What does seem to work...as far as I have seen...is parents behaving responsibly, and not making too many rules ...like kids are allowed some lee way, but still safe.

I also know of a fam where they exposed their kid to stuff and the kid then started doing the stuff...even though all the exposure was showing how negative the stuff was.

But I do not think there is any right or wrong way..just dif methods. Parents should be able to choose how to raise and direct their kids.
 
Zidart said:
it means you're better sleeping in your confortable bed than dead in a coffin. <- i agree with that
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I figured that, I just didn't see how it applied to what was said before. I missed the comment about not being able to sleep after seeing the pics. doh!
 
I've never known any school sponsored presentation to change any kid or teenager's life in any meaningful way, ever. The people who are going to drink and drive are going to do it no matter how many gruesome pictures you show them, and those who won't drive drunk don't need to be scarred for life by seeing such horrible images.

It's a scare tactic, and like any other scare tactic, it never yields the desired result. The ends don't justify the means here, and I think that parents sitting down with their kids and explaining to them the consequences of their actions would be much more effective than exposing them to pictures of mangled bodies.
 
stealth toilet said:
I've never known any school sponsored presentation to change any kid or teenager's life in any meaningful way, ever. The people who are going to drink and drive are going to do it no matter how many gruesome pictures you show them, and those who won't drive drunk don't need to be scarred for life by seeing such horrible images.

It's a scare tactic, and like any other scare tactic, it never yields the desired result. The ends don't justify the means here, and I think that parents sitting down with their kids and explaining to them the consequences of their actions would be much more effective than exposing them to pictures of mangled bodies.
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I'll be honest Stealth,debating with heavy hitters can be a little intimidating. :lol

I understand and respect your views,I'm also thinking that this topic is turning into sea-saw battle,kind of like science and religion.Looking at these pictures may scarred for life,but getting into an accident and losing a limb could prove to be scarring for life as well.That said it,if neither approach works,then I gotta say that leaving this up the discretion of your child who knows maybe half of what you forgot about life,to me is a pretty helpless feeling.

God bless,
MR.KAZ
 
I can't help it, I'm one of those people that find some shock sites funny. Both for the "WTF?" value and because of how obsessive some people are at trying to hammer a point home by using psycho scare tactics when as Stealth said, a good heart to heart is the best way to teach kids...assuming they're not already idots.
 
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