Why Wasn't President Bush More Aggressive With Regard To The War On Terror?

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Hi Guys,

I don't know enough about politics to talk about it intelligently,I'm just curious about something.
Why wasn't President Bush more aggressive with respect to retaliation after the 9-11 attack?I understand that perhaps too many innocent people would have been killed,but the people working in the World Trade Center were just as innocent.
 
In b4 lock...Anyhow, what on earth would retaliation solve? It had already happened. Prevention would have been the best answer. Killing more innocent people would solve absolutely nothing and it would make us just as bad as those terrorists.
 
x2 said:
In b4 lock...Anyhow, what on earth would retaliation solve? It had already happened. Prevention would have been the best answer. Killing more innocent people would solve absolutely nothing and it would make us just as bad as those terrorists.

That's a good point x2.
 
He invaded two countries. That's a pretty aggressive war on what is essentially an ideal. Even invading these two countries to fight off an ideal defies logic, to a point, in that you can't kill an ideal by killing people. Terrorism isn't a centralized problem that can be fought through conventional fighting. A far better solution is to do whatever possible to make America less hated around the world. That will do more than any bullet.
 
Homicidal Cherry53 said:
He invaded two countries. That's a pretty aggressive war on what is essentially an ideal. Even invading these two countries to fight off an ideal defies logic, to a point, in that you can't kill an ideal by killing people. Terrorism isn't a centralized problem that can be fought through conventional fighting. A far better solution is to do whatever possible to make America less hated around the world. That will do more than any bullet.

*Claps unsarcastically*

I agree.
 
I agree with Cherry on this one. But even making an attempt at trying to get others to like us has it's faults.
 
Back when I was in High School where everyone in my grade was young and stupid, all the kids used to ask "Why don't we just nuke the whole Middle East?"
 
Homicidal Cherry53 said:
He invaded two countries. That's a pretty aggressive war on what is essentially an ideal. Even invading these two countries to fight off an ideal defies logic, to a point, in that you can't kill an ideal by killing people. Terrorism isn't a centralized problem that can be fought through conventional fighting. A far better solution is to do whatever possible to make America less hated around the world. That will do more than any bullet.

QFT.

But, the question is, what would it take for that to happen, and can it be implemented?
 
Mai Valentine said:
QFT.

But, the question is, what would it take for that to happen, and can it be implemented?
That's a good question and I really don't have an answer for you, but a big start would be a less aggressive foreign policy. That seems to be what, at least partially, got us in this situation in the first place.
 
Mai Valentine said:
QFT.

But, the question is, what would it take for that to happen, and can it be implemented?

I doubt it. The ball has been rolling since World War II, and will be nearly impossible to stop it. And even if we were to elect a semi-Isolationist president, he'll likely be largely inneffective in implementing wide-sweeping change.

Homicidal Cherry53 said:
That's a good question and I really don't have an answer for you, but a big start would be a less aggressive foreign policy. That seems to be what, at least partially, got us in this situation in the first place.

I believe there is nothing wrong with an agressive foreign policy so long as we are more selective in what we get ourselves into. Stop the spread of communism? Lame. Bail out an otherwise defenseless country who has been invaded by a dominant neighbor? That's the right battle.

Afghanistan was a good idea in the beginning. Even if we didn't get to bin Lagen, at least we were able to disrupt their means of financing their operations. And make it harder to set up camp. But now it's a waste of time.

Iraq was a bonehead opperation from the get-go. Absolutely no reason to go in. But it is what it is.
 
Homicidal Cherry53 said:
He invaded two countries. That's a pretty aggressive war on what is essentially an ideal. Even invading these two countries to fight off an ideal defies logic, to a point, in that you can't kill an ideal by killing people. Terrorism isn't a centralized problem that can be fought through conventional fighting. A far better solution is to do whatever possible to make America less hated around the world. That will do more than any bullet.

Very well put.

Also, killing innocent people intentionally in retaliation to 911 just to get Bin Laden would have made us just as bad as him.
 
Dart said:
I believe there is nothing wrong with an agressive foreign policy so long as we are more selective in what we get ourselves into. Stop the spread of communism? Lame. Bail out an otherwise defenseless country who has been invaded by a dominant neighbor? That's the right battle.

As a rule I am against armed conflict of any kind. In my opinion violence doesn't solve problems, rather it exacerbates existing ones, creates new ones, and is in and of itself a problem. However, I would consider this attitude a step in the right direction, and would settle in the present for a leader to adopt it.

The biggest problems with the former war on communism, and the current war on terror, is that the open-ended nature of these objectives can and are twisted to fulfill other, less noble, ends. Many an innocent, defenseless country was invaded, terrorized, and pillaged under the anti-communist agenda. Similarly, the war on terror gives the appearance of justification for the American Army to invade any country they want and oust the government of the day for a more pro-America regime. While my ideals force me to say that no battle should ever be fought with violence, I would settle for violence being used in battles that ought to be fought.

Which is why, as Cherry first stated, clear objectives and aggressors must be defined before the war starts. There must be a point set at the onset of war that lets the military, and all involved in the battle, know when they've done their job. Knowing what that job is, who it involves, and when its done, is not only logistically helpful, but can itself be used to determine if this is the "right battle" to fight. Getting to that point would be a wonderful thing.
 
That's the point I was trying to make. Whether innocent lives are threatened or not, Comming to the aid of a country who cannot defend it's self can be a noble cause.

Now that's not to say that military aid is the only aid. Sometimes diplomacy works well, and military action should always be a last resort scenario.
 
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