9/11

i was in 7th grade and i found out 1st period and we watched it in everyone of my classes...

there's nothing funny about it. i'd like for you to tell that joke to the relatives of the 3000+ people that died
 
I remember that day my mum woke me up and said that couple plains crashed in to some big buildings then she turned on the tv and i saw the plain crash in to the building and then a HUGE fire ball bursting out.

Another shocking thing about that day was that people were jumping out the windows to get away from the flames i would rather burn to death than jump from that hight -shudders-.

All in all didn't effect me as much as it effected most people but it was still tragic and sad.

About people making jks about it its not right but you cant stop it theres always going to be some cold hearted prick who think its funny to make a joke out of something tragic like Steve Irwin's death that effected me more than 9/11 because 1. He was from Australia and 2. He was one of my idols. No matter how sad and devastating something is theres always going to be a cold heart amongst the hearts full of sorrow.

How bush handled it though was completely stupid ALOT more innocent people have died because of him people in Iraq people from Australia and people from America have died just because bush thinks war solves every thing ::).
 
Strangely, in a FOX news coverage of that day, they estimated a 100 people dead......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tm_UsssULM&mode=related&search=
 
100? they cant count right alot more people died than that even though it would have been better would have been sad still but rather 100 than 3000+ but 0 would have been alot better.
 
GamingMaiden said:
That was such a horrible day in history........
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There have been worse.

Take the Pinochet coup d'etat in Chile in 1973, backed primarily by the American government with direct intervention by the CIA. Under the guise of ousting a "communist dictatorship" America assassinated a democratically elected president in favor of a brutal military dictator whose iron fist policies were more reminiscent of Stalin's regime than any "communist" policies instituted under Allende's presidency. Thousands of people were killed, thousands more disappeared, either killed unofficially or having fled as refugees to nearby countries. After the first few months soccer stadiums normally used to house around 200,000 spectators were turned into jails because the number of political prisoners (Allende's supporters, a.k.a., those who voted for him) were all imprisoned. Ever since then the economic recovery Chile briefly enjoyed under Allende's rule has recessed beyond belief, and the country has never quite recovered since. Ironically, the coup took place on 9/11, yet it took 28 years for the country that made possible such a massacre to recognize it as a horrible day in history.

3,000 people lost their lives in the two towers on sept. 11/2003, and on sept. 3/2006 another 3,000 died as a result of the ensuing war on terror. God knows how many Iraqis have lost their lives so far, I don't even want to think of the civilian death toll that has occurred as a result. 9/11 was a tragedy, but every Iraqi since then has been living a far greater one.

I'm not saying this to rain on anyone's parade, nor am I trying to say that 9/11 2003 wasn't anything less than tragic, I'm just trying to put a little perspective on the situation. We're not innocent, we've pissed a lot of people off for no good reason, it was something we should have seen coming.

Anyway, I know everyone here is going to jump on me for saying this. If you have something to say to me, PM me, we'll discuss it away from this thread, otherwise I fear people will say things off the cuff that could get them in trouble. My heart goes out to the people who lost their lives that grave september morn. May they rest in peace.
 
Not taking away from 9/11 but would anyone mind if I made a 7/7 commemerative thread next year?

I didn't properly find out about it until I got home. The footage, etc. still overwhelms me to this very day. However, I'm pleased to say that it didn't effect me directly. It sounds as if it crippled America for a short period.

EDIT - However, I do agree with stealth toilet's post and am not offended by it.
 
To me, there is nothing worse than the loss of lives on that fateful day. It was the deadliest attack on America in history.
 
I don't think anyone cares about 7/7 because it only happened here, lol.

But anyways, I still remember what I was doing the day 9/11 happened. I was recovering from a hangover and overslept and when I woke up and saw it on the news it was really surreal. My heart goes out to all the victims. :(
 
stealth toilet said:
There have been worse.

Take the Pinochet coup d'etat in Chile in 1973, backed primarily by the American government with direct intervention by the CIA. Under the guise of ousting a "communist dictatorship" America assassinated a democratically elected president in favor of a brutal military dictator whose iron fist policies were more reminiscent of Stalin's regime than any "communist" policies instituted under Allende's presidency. Thousands of people were killed, thousands more disappeared, either killed unofficially or having fled as refugees to nearby countries. After the first few months soccer stadiums normally used to house around 200,000 spectators were turned into jails because the number of political prisoners (Allende's supporters, a.k.a., those who voted for him) were all imprisoned. Ever since then the economic recovery Chile briefly enjoyed under Allende's rule has recessed beyond belief, and the country has never quite recovered since. Ironically, the coup took place on 9/11, yet it took 28 years for the country that made possible such a massacre to recognize it as a horrible day in history.

3,000 people lost their lives in the two towers on sept. 11/2003, and on sept. 3/2006 another 3,000 died as a result of the ensuing war on terror. God knows how many Iraqis have lost their lives so far, I don't even want to think of the civilian death toll that has occurred as a result. 9/11 was a tragedy, but every Iraqi since then has been living a far greater one.

I'm not saying this to rain on anyone's parade, nor am I trying to say that 9/11 2003 wasn't anything less than tragic, I'm just trying to put a little perspective on the situation. We're not innocent, we've pissed a lot of people off for no good reason, it was something we should have seen coming.

Anyway, I know everyone here is going to jump on me for saying this. If you have something to say to me, PM me, we'll discuss it away from this thread, otherwise I fear people will say things off the cuff that could get them in trouble. My heart goes out to the people who lost their lives that grave september morn. May they rest in peace.
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Intelligent post as always Stealth. :)

The Iraqi death toll is roughly 30,000 now...no exact number though.

Although, I find it pretty ironic that Bin Laden was the one to orchestrate 9/11. I mean, U.S backing of the guerrilla movement in Afghanistan is basically what allowed Bin Laden and Al Quada to rise to power. Almost like biting the hand that fed you...

The anniversary's tomorrow now. I remember how surreal it felt the first time I saw that plane hit into the tower...
 
Strubes said:
The Iraqi death toll isn't all innocent life though. 9/11 was the loss of thousands of innocent lives.
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Yes, it is. 99% of Iraqis lost, were innocents, killed by suicide bombs, or other non-combatants, caught in the crossfire.

I agree with Stealth here. There have been worse tragedy in history, some of which have been orchestrated by us.

However, the fact that I am American makes me feel closer to 9/11, and I am not denying that it was a terrible, and tragic lose of life.
 
I wouldn't say close to 99% of the Iraqi deaths were innocent. They knew what they were doing. To their country they may have been innocent, but not to Americans who were on the receiving end. Enough debate about the war though, as it will only lead to anger, because I take my country very seriously.

None the less, as soon as the clock struck midnight, I knew I was in for another somber 9/11....I have to work too, which also doesn't help.
 
September 11, 2001 was my day off. I had been up talking to Mai pretty late the night before. (I lived in NY at the time and often got out of work at midnight EST, and talked to her on Pacific time until I fell asleep.) I woke up and had the house to myself, and I got up fairly early in the morning, which was unusual for a day off, and for some reason flipped on the radio, which was totally unheard of since I hate the radio stations that were around there. I started hearing all this stuff about planes crashing in the city, and I thought at first it was something like War of the Worlds because this station NEVER did serious stuff, and that was just crazy. After a few minutes I started thinking "this HAS to be a joke, I'll turn the TV on and see. It can't be real." So I turned on the TV just in time to see the second plane hit the WTC. It was real.

I think the first thing I did was run to the phone and call Mai, and make sure she was okay because it just sounded like stuff was blowing up all over the country, I had just woke up and it was a lot to process and everything was happening so fast. I didn't even think about how early it was Pacific time and she was actually awake already.

I remember that day going in to work to check on everyone and just make sure everyone was okay. We already had donation jars set up and lots of people had already volunteered to go down to the city to help out however they could. I remember running into people I hadn't seen in a while and just hugging them, and I remember crying in the shower.... I remember the silence of having no planes in the air whatsoever.

A month later I put in my 2 weeks at my job and after that I moved out here to California. I had been planning on flying out but that kinda took it out of flying for a good while after that. It's been 6 years. I don't think I will ever forget it.
 
Strubes said:
I wouldn't say close to 99% of the Iraqi deaths were innocent. They knew what they were doing. To their country they may have been innocent, but not to Americans who were on the receiving end. Enough debate about the war though, as it will only lead to anger, because I take my country very seriously.
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I don't want to get off-topic here, but I feel I have to respond to this. By all accounts, the majority of Iraqi deaths were innocent. The majority of the death toll aren't extremist Jihadists who fired at American troops. Almost all of the death's are some person, walking along unsuspectingly, in a crowded market, who get the crap blown out of them by some suicide bomber. In the eyes of anyone who doesn't consider living wrong, they were innocent.
 
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