Animal Abuse

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I want people to know whats going on no matter what i want to spread the word i want people to know whats happening to these beautiful creatures it isn't right and it has to stop.

Personly i think the people who dont care are just as bad as the people who do these horrible acts.


PLZ HELP STOP THIS SICK ACT!!!!!
 
Sickening......people should have a death sentence for killing animals.

Why?
Animals are living things. They deserve to live as much as we do.....
 
I... refrained from replying to this for the same reasons as Hines... Some of the things I've seen in regards to animal cruelty and animal testing is just sick. Animal testers can't even be called human...
 
GamingMaiden said:
Sickening......people should have a death sentence for killing animals.

Why?
Animals are living things. They deserve to live as much as we do.....
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I'd like to agree, but only in part... On that note, I must ask, when was the last time you ate meat?

I was definitely brought up to respect animals as living things. I've had many pets and treat them as members of my family. I have not gone vegan or vegetarian, however, I have tried to eat less meat over the past couple of years.

I rather enjoyed that while I was in Italy last year, I only had one meal with meat in it over the course of a week, and I really didn't miss it at all. I do still eat meat, but since I eat it less often, I try to make more informed, responsible choices about the meat that I do still buy from time to time. Besides, leaving meat out of a meal here and there forces one to experiment with new ingredients... (I still don't think that soy imitation burgers are worth squat though... I don't eat imitation meat.. veggie burgers are friggin' gross!! My pet rats won't even eat those!)

Animals should definitely be treated with some base level of respect. But at the same time, humans are naturally omnivorous, made to suppliment our diets with some meat. I have noticed after travelling out of the country, that Americans eat meat with really high frequency.

Anyhow, thought I'd throw those comments out there for your consideration since it's a related topic...
 
Grindspine said:
I'd like to agree, but only in part... On that note, I must ask, when was the last time you ate meat?

I was definitely brought up to respect animals as living things. I've had many pets and treat them as members of my family. I have not gone vegan or vegetarian, however, I have tried to eat less meat over the past couple of years.

I rather enjoyed that while I was in Italy last year, I only had one meal with meat in it over the course of a week, and I really didn't miss it at all. I do still eat meat, but since I eat it less often, I try to make more informed, responsible choices about the meat that I do still buy from time to time. Besides, leaving meat out of a meal here and there forces one to experiment with new ingredients... (I still don't think that soy imitation burgers are worth squat though... I don't eat imitation meat.. veggie burgers are friggin' gross!! My pet rats won't even eat those!)

Animals should definitely be treated with some base level of respect. But at the same time, humans are naturally omnivorous, made to suppliment our diets with some meat. I have noticed after travelling out of the country, that Americans eat meat with really high frequency.

Anyhow, thought I'd throw those comments out there for your consideration since it's a related topic...
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People often forget a living thing gave it's life for their suppertime meal. As a child I never understood the importance of saying grace before a meal, whether or not it was laden with religious references. However, being a little older and a little wiser now, I appreciate when people take a moment before they dig in to recognize what it is they're eating, and give thanks for it.

Like Grindspine, I'm not a vegetarian, nor do I wish to be in any way. Having said that, I think people aught to respect their food a lot more. Even if you are a vegetarian you must still consider the labor it takes a farmer to raise a crop, and also recognize how priveleged we are to even have food on our plates three times a day.

Edit: I didn't even watch the linked video as I can see by the comments that this video, like many I have seen, would leave my heart in shambles.
 
Animal abuse is a terrible thing in the world today. Then again, I'm going to treat my dog better than some pig I see on a farm any day. Why? Because there's a difference between household pets and wild life or live stock.
 
Cows, chickens, and pigs are bred to be eaten. They are the few species that will never even get close to endangered, much less extinction.

But I don't like seeing people abuse dogs or cats or the like.
 
stealth toilet said:
Like Grindspine, I'm not a vegetarian, nor do I wish to be in any way. Having said that, I think people aught to respect their food a lot more. Even if you are a vegetarian you must still consider the labor it takes a farmer to raise a crop, and also recognize how priveleged we are to even have food on our plates three times a day.
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You eat like three times a day? Dude... You're lucky... I'm a poor college student working three jobs to make ends meet!

Strubes said:
Animal abuse is a terrible thing in the world today. Then again, I'm going to treat my dog better than some pig I see on a farm any day. Why? Because there's a difference between household pets and wild life or live stock.
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What's the difference? In some countries dogs are raised for meat... Some people do keep pigs as pets. Even if you're raising an animal with intention of eventually using it's meat for food, you'd want it raised fat and happy until that time, wouldn't you?

Mai Valentine said:
Cows, chickens, and pigs are bred to be eaten. They are the few species that will never even get close to endangered, much less extinction.

But I don't like seeing people abuse dogs or cats or the like.
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So, for the sake of argument, why would it be okay for someone to abuse a cow, chicken or pig, but not alright for someone to abuse a dog or cat?

(Note: putting some of these out there for the sake of discussion, not to try to pin anyone into a corner... but really, try thinking about these from another perspective!)
 
Grindspine said:
So, for the sake of argument, why would it be okay for someone to abuse a cow, chicken or pig, but not alright for someone to abuse a dog or cat?
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My response was more aimed at what you and stealth toilet were talking about as far as vegetarianism and such. People may feel it's wrong to eat meat but I'm just saying that certain animals are bred for that purpose and will still be around no matter how much you eat. I don't have a problem with people eating beef or chicken or ham, etc. I do have a problem with people who eat meat that comes from animals that are endangered, though.

For the record, I don't think it's ok to abuse cows, chickens, or pigs, either. :)
 
I dont have anything wrong with killing animals for food as long as its quick and painless for the animal and also its not just human nature lots of other animals eat meat they need to hunt and kill to survive i know its sad seeing a animal die but remember its because the hunter needs to kill and eat to survive.

Things that DO piss me off are story's like the one i herd not that long ago about a 6 month old Labrador found with a double pointed hook through its nostrils stray dogs AND cats kittens and puppies were being used as live shark bait in the French-controlled Reunion Island in the Indian ocean.

What about animal testing those people who do that disserve to get used as live shark bait shore thats sounds nasty but just think of all the animals and the suffering they went through for those stupid ass beauty products.

Now i dont know about you but that makes you think how far are people willing to go to make animals suffer.

Sharks arnt the problem feral cats and rabbits and all that crap arnt the problem foxes arnt the darn problem PEOPLE are the problem we create war people abuse animals some times for there own amusement people sometimes kill cows and pigs and chickens just for fun people starve them to death and some people say who cares they are animals they arnt intelligent well guess what how about i lock YOU in a cage hit you and starve you to death and lets see how you like it there are LOADS of other different animals that get abused.

What about dogs being put down because they attack some one even they WE got rapest and murderers and pedos who some most of the time in the end are out again tell me does that sound fair to you a dog being put down because they attack some one but if a person kills we cant kill them because it ain't **** justice screw justice do you really think they care if they did they wouldn't have done what they done.

What about this horse flu incident if you ask me the only reason those people give a **** about those horses is because they get a crap load of money out of it if they didn't get money off of the horses they would probley leave them to die. Not ONCE have i herd one of the people who run the horse racing company or whatever say its sad that the horses are dieing NOOOO they are saying this is a dark day for the horse racing industry **** the industry why dont you put more effert in trying to help the horses.

Animals are NOT **** toys they are living things who feel pain so i want who EVER hurts animals to try to teach them right from wrong or doing it for fun when they are shaking in fear FEARING FOR THERE LIVES put your self in there place Imagen how scared you would be if you were getting beaten around not knowing what you did wrong and not being able to do ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
 
the poeple sould be a shamed of them selfs, they're animals living things. imagine if that happened to a person what would happen then >:(
 
Grindspine said:
What's the difference? In some countries dogs are raised for meat... Some people do keep pigs as pets. Even if you're raising an animal with intention of eventually using it's meat for food, you'd want it raised fat and happy until that time, wouldn't you?
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The difference is...as I said. One's a household pet here in America, and the other's raised to be food. What people do in other countries is fine and dandy, but I'm talking about America. I'm also not talking about abusing. I've never really heard of someone abusing a pig or a cow :lol.
 
Abusing an animal in my mind is no different than abusing a child. It's cruel no matter who or what the victim is. But I am also at the opinion that hunting an animal for food or clothing cannot in any way be considered animal cruelty because the act is intended to be quick and painless. I also find that hunting animals such as deer is a better fate for them than being hit by vehicles.

As far as personal diet, I am by no means ashamed at the fact that I try to have meat in nearly every meal. Mainly chicken or turkey.
 
I don't eat less meat. I don't condone animal abuse, but if it is at the point where the meat is on my plate, it is too late for that particular animal.
 
Mai Valentine said:
Cows, chickens, and pigs are bred to be eaten. They are the few species that will never even get close to endangered, much less extinction.

But I don't like seeing people abuse dogs or cats or the like.
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This is where hypocracy comes into play. Exactly what differentiates a cow or pig from a cat or dog? What distinction between the two groups makes it okay to kill one without a second thought, but not the other? For that matter, humanity as a whole appears to have no problem killing any of a wide variety of living organisms, but others are basically untouchable. I have never really been able to understand it.

For example, Abyss mentioned dogs/cats being used as shark bait, and I have to wonder why this is any worse than using fish as shark bait. What makes the life of a dog or cat more valuable than that of a fish? Who are we to say that one animal deserves to live more than another?

I still don't believe in animal abuse, but I don't understand why our idea of animal abuse seems so limited to cats and dogs.

As for eating meat, I have no problem with it. I don't see what's wrong with killing an animal in order to survive but killing purely for sport is entirely wrong in my mind.
 
Homicidal Cherry53 said:
For example, Abyss mentioned dogs/cats being used as shark bait, and I have to wonder why this is any worse than using fish as shark bait. What makes the life of a dog or cat more valuable than that of a fish? Who are we to say that one animal deserves to live more than another?
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Fish are part of a natural diet for sharks. Dogs and cats aren't. Sharks will eat fish without any human intervention. That's how the ocean works. And that's why perhaps it's not seen as being so bad to use fish as bait for sharks. And actually I hate people that catch sharks for sport so I'm not sure why I am arguing that point.

And again for the record, I never said it was ok to abuse cows, pigs, or chickens. I said that they are bred specifically for people to eat, and therefore people shouldn't feel so guilty about it. The cows, pigs, chickens, etc. are being killed in order for us to survive and as long as they are not abused in the process I don't see how what I said is hypocritical.

Cats and dogs can also be food in some cultures, but for the most part they are meant to be pets, which is why abuse on those particular animals is more heavily frowned upon. If you ask any pet owner about their pet, they will tell you that their pet is family. If someone hurt someone in your family, you'd be pretty upset too. I think that's why cats and dogs in particular are given more importance when talking about animal abuse.

Personally, I think abusing animals of any kind is abhorrent.
 
Strubes said:
The difference is...as I said. One's a household pet here in America, and the other's raised to be food. What people do in other countries is fine and dandy, but I'm talking about America. I'm also not talking about abusing. I've never really heard of someone abusing a pig or a cow :lol.
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Cultural relativism makes you think about things differently... Besides the practices that the American mainstream uses, there are several other (better or worse) livestock practices in the world.

Homicidal Cherry53 said:
As for eating meat, I have no problem with it. I don't see what's wrong with killing an animal in order to survive but killing purely for sport is entirely wrong in my mind.
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Good points!
 
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