First off, it was more of an expression than anything. Yes, France did help alot in gaining our independence. But 13 loosly knit colonies taking on one of teh world's superpowers tends to have that feeling of "us against the world." Figure of speech. But I guess we should have held on and then merely asked for our independence, right?
Let us look at what I wrote. "I feel it's disrespectful when people ridicule leader of the very nation they live in." Your response:
Hm. Tell me, what is the difference between ridiculing the leader of a government personally and the government entity it's self?? Also, The Colonists spelled out the "whys" of their grief. I was speaking about how people attack President Bush personally. Apples and oranges, perhaps?
Hm. Nope. People ridicule him simply because of the situation in Iraq. If that were not the case, and there were more, he would have lost the last elections to Senator Kerry. And as for helping out the wealthy, I am what you'd call middle class. I make enough to support my wife and kids. Kind of stuck in the middle. And I benefitted greatly from his income tax cuts. Last year alone I managed to get back more than I paid simply because he raised the chile tax credit. I aslo benefitted from a credit because my wife stays home with my kids. The impression that people get when a president cuts taxes and the rich benefit more is not because it was intended that way. It's more complex. Most wealthy people don't count just their personal wealth. They may use their business as a tax write-off. The Tax Code is a boox that's almost 4 inches thick. And these whiny leftists never bother to open it up and see why some get bigger write-offs or refunds. But that will never happen. So when you say "from what I understand", it sounds like "from what I've heard." And hearsay is not reliable.
Yes, you are right. For the first part of the war the U.S stayed out. Isolationism prevailed in that day. But the U.S was also not healthy by financial means. I suggest reading The Grapes of Wrath. The Depression changed the American mindset. People were going broke because of Wall Street's crash. War wasn't a good idea at the time. Yes, Pearl Harbor changed that. But only because a foreign government had the gall to launch an unprevoked attack the same week that their ambassators were in Washington telling U.S government officials that nothing was going to happen. And when the U.S declared war on japan, Germany declared war on the U.S. We could have waited for Germany to come knock on our doorstep. But we didn't.
I'm running out of time. It's a little after 7 and I need to continue getting ready for work. I'll continue when I get home tonight...
Let us look at what I wrote. "I feel it's disrespectful when people ridicule leader of the very nation they live in." Your response:
Before the "freedom loving Americans" through off the "shackles of the oppressive British" they did a lot of ridiculing the British government. Perhaps I'm not reading the intent of your words, so correct me if I am wrong, but that to me is in direct contradiction with itself. Please elaborate so I understand why it was ok to ridicule the government, and even revolt against it, 300 years ago, but it is no longer ok to ridicule the government in the country that was born out of the aforementioned revolution.
Hm. Tell me, what is the difference between ridiculing the leader of a government personally and the government entity it's self?? Also, The Colonists spelled out the "whys" of their grief. I was speaking about how people attack President Bush personally. Apples and oranges, perhaps?
Actually from what I understand that is merely the icing on the cake. People hate him because he looks out for his own interests, and the interests of the wealthy. His social policy is horrible, he doesn't listen to the needs of his people, and he seems to make mistakes all the time, not just every so often. He isn't fit to represent, let alone lead, the people.
Hm. Nope. People ridicule him simply because of the situation in Iraq. If that were not the case, and there were more, he would have lost the last elections to Senator Kerry. And as for helping out the wealthy, I am what you'd call middle class. I make enough to support my wife and kids. Kind of stuck in the middle. And I benefitted greatly from his income tax cuts. Last year alone I managed to get back more than I paid simply because he raised the chile tax credit. I aslo benefitted from a credit because my wife stays home with my kids. The impression that people get when a president cuts taxes and the rich benefit more is not because it was intended that way. It's more complex. Most wealthy people don't count just their personal wealth. They may use their business as a tax write-off. The Tax Code is a boox that's almost 4 inches thick. And these whiny leftists never bother to open it up and see why some get bigger write-offs or refunds. But that will never happen. So when you say "from what I understand", it sounds like "from what I've heard." And hearsay is not reliable.
Yes, you are right. For the first part of the war the U.S stayed out. Isolationism prevailed in that day. But the U.S was also not healthy by financial means. I suggest reading The Grapes of Wrath. The Depression changed the American mindset. People were going broke because of Wall Street's crash. War wasn't a good idea at the time. Yes, Pearl Harbor changed that. But only because a foreign government had the gall to launch an unprevoked attack the same week that their ambassators were in Washington telling U.S government officials that nothing was going to happen. And when the U.S declared war on japan, Germany declared war on the U.S. We could have waited for Germany to come knock on our doorstep. But we didn't.
I'm running out of time. It's a little after 7 and I need to continue getting ready for work. I'll continue when I get home tonight...