DS Vs PSP

Actually, the DS will be able to play Game Boy Advance games, but it will not be able to play Game Boy or Game Boy Color games. So some people might find themselves hanging on to their GBA or GBA SP for any GB/GBC games and getting the DS as well. Which would make them still worth it.

$300??!!! Thats rough. Guess I'll be waiting a couple years for the price to drop when it's outdated and way cheaper...get one used or somethin.

Nephlabobo said:

Sony is trying to make a handheld PS2 - or something close. So I think that the PSP's graphics just may be better than the DS'.

I agree that $400 is a kick in the balls - I think it'll be a bit cheaper, say $300, which is still a kick in the balls. I won't be buying it.

HOWEVER, I find it hilarious and sad that you take Sony to task for gouging customers when you say nothing about what Nintendo has done with the GBA/SP/DS

First they release the GBA, then six months to a year later they release the exact same gaming machine - the only difference being a backlit screen which should have been there in the first place. It's a great way to get a whole bunch of customers to buy the same machine over again. Then a year to two years later they come out with the DS - which plays GBA games, thus rendering the TWO GBAs you've spent your hard earned cash on obsolete. If that's not a cash grab, I don't know what is.

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$100 for the GBA is not a bad price.

I have no complaints at all.  In fact, I bought an original GBA and a GBA sp.
IMO there is no way to justify $300-400 for a handheld.
I'll wait to get one when it drops in price.

HOPEFULLY this will be the next Ngage for pricing
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violatd said:

$300??!!! Thats rough. Guess I'll be waiting a couple years for the price to drop when it's outdated and way cheaper...get one used or somethin.

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hopefully they mass produce it enough that it will drop.

otherwise.... it could do what the turbo express did which is at $200 brand new still to this day.

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Neph, it's only on this board that you see that, since most of us are Nintendo fans. If you were to go to the Sony boards or any message board that is about the PS2, I'm sure you'd see the opposite.

I don't know about your analogy though. You are saying that Nintendo will get about $400 for making you buy a GBA, then a GBA SP, and then a DS, while Sony will get the same for the PSP. Either way you look at it, that's three systems for the price of one, which IMO is a much better deal considering the library of games available on the Nintendo handhelds. I'm not crazy about buying the PSP for $400 when it will probably only have a 3 hour battery life for games and so far only one game (Tales of Eternia) that I'm even interested in.

And some people probably didn't even pay full price for their SP; ie they went to EB or GameStop and traded in their GBA towards the price of the SP. Some people will also do that with the DS.

I'm actually not interested in either handheld. As i've mentioned before, my friends aren't big on Nintendo, so buying the DS which is pretty much a multi-player handheld would be pointless. Maybe in the future though...

And i'm not interested in the PSP because of lack of originality in games, over the top price, and (as mentioned) low battery life.

I'll just keep my GBA SP and get called an oldskooler

Retro Hero said:

I'm actually not interested in either handheld. As i've mentioned before, my friends aren't big on Nintendo, so buying the DS which is pretty much a multi-player handheld would be pointless. Maybe in the future though...

And i'm not interested in the PSP because of lack of originality in games, over the top price, and (as mentioned) low battery life.

I'll just keep my GBA SP and get called an oldskooler

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you wish, your not even close to a oldschooler gamer.... I still game with my orginal GameBoy, you know the old gray ones. w00t 13 shades of gray! gaming

Wow, you still have a Game Brick? LOL. That really is old school. I never even had one of those. I was really late into the handheld thing. My first handheld was a Game Boy Color that I got in 2000.

My sister still has her Sega Gamegear, which came out shortly after the GameBoy.

That was back in the day when they included a GOOD game.... Tetris.

Yes - you have three Nintendo machines for the (potential) price of one PSP. But they all play the same games. Is buying three cheaper machines that all play exactly the same games better than buying one expensive one for the same price?

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Good question. First I have to point out something though. You say all of them play the same games, but that's not quite true. The GBA and GBA SP don't have two screens, so they can't play any of the games that will be made specifically for the DS. And as I posted earlier, the DS won't be able to play anything except DS games and GBA games. That excludes GB and GBC games. So really I'd say it's probably worth it to have the SP and the DS, which would be around $300 assuming that the DS will be priced at $200.

I dunno. To me the price of the DS isn't a huge factor because I like Nintendo franchises and those will inevitably end up on the DS. The PSP's price is more of a factor because I'm not too thrilled with the current expected games and none of the non-gaming features really excite me. For the DS I already know that there's a few features and games that I am really excited about.

However, I would probably have to draw the line if the DS ended up priced at like $300 or something. I just don't think that will happen though. I think they will probably launch it at $200, which is a bit pricey for a handheld, but I think the enjoyment I will get from it will make it worth it.

BTW, in the past 4 years I've gone through 5 incarnations of the Game Boy:
Pokemon Edition Game Boy Color>Glacier Game Boy Advance>Platinum Game Boy Advance>Cobalt SP>Classic NES style SP

I guess I just feel that price is not as big a factor if you are getting your money's worth, which I definitely feel that I am with all the Game Boy games that I like. *^_^*

I only bought a GBA and I have had mine for a really long time now. I didn't think a back-light was such a big deal. So many people complained about no back light that Nintendo finally gave them what they wanted. That is all.

However, I have no idea what the big deal was. The GB never had a back light, even when Game Gear was around.

You bought a Playstation, then bought a PS2, no? That is the same thing with the GB, GB color, GBA, and DS. They all do something new and different.

But hey, I love Nintendo. Obviously that is why I buy their systems. I don't like Sony or their games.

Neph, the thing for me with the remakes of the SNES games is that I think the SNES was their best system, and those are some of the best games. So I don't have a problem with it. ;D

I just think it's a good way to keep the classic games fresh. I mean think about it, with DVD's you get classic films coming out so that people can own them as a collectors thing and have them in good quality. It's pretty the same with the GBA. Seeing as it's hard to get a SNES these days, and even harder to get a NES (not to mention how hard it is to get them to work) then it's a good idea to keep them fresh and portable on the GBA. Also, newer gamers don't miss out that way.

I'm all for originality, but I do thinks it's great that there are some classic titles still available.

Mai Valentine said:

Wow, you still have a Game Brick? LOL. That really is old school. I never even had one of those. I was really late into the handheld thing. My first handheld was a Game Boy Color that I got in 2000. 

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I have mine as well... those things are built like tanks!!

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i have 2 well, they were my bro's, but he's in college now

Personally, I doubt either handheld will be worthwhile.  I mean, we're all used to beautiful graphics on our consoles (whether GameCube, PlayStation 2, Xbox) and/or on our PC's that the graphics of these handhelds will seem like the difference between a portable, black and white TV vs. a 20" full-color, plasma TV with 6.1 surround sound playing LOTR on DVD.  When I woke up early, got to the store before it opened, and purchased my GBA (not SP), I was thoroughly disappointed.  I was expecting Nintendo to do a decent job.  IMO, the shape of it was uncomfortable, the buttons were too small and too few, the graphics sucked, and there weren't any worthwhile games for it.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not a biased person, but the games I got - Tony Hawk 2, Super Dodgeball Advance, Super Mario Advance, Iridion 3D, Cruisn' Velocity - all were either too easy and beaten in under an hour on the highest difficulty, or were too hard on the easiest to get far at all.  And the graphics of the last two listed games were worse than what a monochrome cell phone could do.  I was wholly dissatisfied with my purchase that just recently, after not playing it for years, I sold the entire thing, all my 6 GBA games, and my 20 or so GB games and bought a Special Editon Halo Xbox.  So, after all this, I doubt either system will be all that great.

Now, look at PDA's.  They have some of them so incredible, that I just wonder why they don't incorporate some of that into a portable gaming system.  I mean, if it's possible to have millions of colors on a crystal clear screen, fit all that memory and such into such small places (stop the darn cartridges for gosh sakes.  If it's possible to get 2 gigs of data on an SD memory card, which is about a hundredth the size of the GBA cartridges and millions of times the capacity, why don't they) and whatnot, why do they still shove utter crap into an uncomfortable, overpriced piece of cheap plastic and sell it as a portable game system?

Money. They want to spend the least amount of money they possibly can on anything they sell, sell it at a super high price that's way over what it's worth, and get as much money out of our pockets as they can. And, since most of America is full of stupid people, the companies have billions of dollars. Thank you stupid people. Maybe if we just refused to buy the stuff until they made it worth our money, we'd get higher quality products for a less amount of money.

Remember, this is just my opinion.  Flames are not needed, they just make you look retarded that you can't accept other's opinions.

ok... now that we know the real amounts that both systems will sell at... who do you all think will do better?

I reset the votes to 0, so make sure to vote up again!

Post/vote it up!

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I voted not sure... because at this time, I am really unsure which system is going to do better now.

Its hard for me to say.... The DS is too unique of a system.... and it has great potential. But the PSP seems to be breathing on the DS's back, and has great potential itself.

meh... :

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A day ago I would have said the DS, simply on the price and the fact that it comes out before Christmas.

But Sony looks like they are really in it to compete. $185 is not a bad price at all. The US release will be in spring, which will hurt it a little, but still. The only drawback personally for me is the 4-6 hour battery life, which is still low IMO, and the game library, which so far does nothing for me. But I can definitely see myself getting both at launch, depending on what games the PSP is going to launch with.

There's a lot of hype right now around the DS, but the PSP has the Sony name recognition going for it. I mean some will see that Nintendo is making the DS and be like, "It's a Nintendo handheld. Should be good, right?" but I think even more people (especially in this, the Playstation generation) will be like, "Oh, it's a Sony handheld? They make the PS2, right?" and lean towards the PSP for that reason. Especially if Sony can get Rockstar to make a GTA game for it.