exclusives...does Matt of IGN have a point?

Will MGS Sell?

Did you ever stop to think that the reason MGS sold like crap on cube was because it was a rehash of a really old game. MGS2 on xbox was a rehash of a relativly new game. If they released MGS3 on cube 6 months after it released on ps2 it would sell through the roof.

Matt responds: I'm not sure I agree with that prediction. I doubt any game that was not created exclusively for GameCube would sell "through the roof" on the console. Look at the platform's history: all the biggest sellers are exclusives. That's the problem. Nintendo fans oftentimes dismiss anything that doesn't come to GameCube first, or isn't entirely exclusive, which is why many multi-platform third party games don't sell nearly as well on GCN as they do other consoles.

On top of that, GameCube owners have not exactly rallied behind titles targeted specifically at adult gamers. The mere fact that a game like Kirby Air Ride, considered a disappointment, outsold the critically acclaimed Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem, is very telling, as far as I'm concerned. The same can be said of the Resident Evil series, which has so far not performed as well on Nintendo's console as it has on Sony systems, past or present.

In the end, I think Nintendo pulled off quite a feat when it sold 1.2 million units of Metroid Prime, a darker, grittier game based on a franchise that hadn't been seen by many Nintendo fans in 10 years.

It's going to be interesting to see how Prime 2 performs. And on top of that, how Resident Evil 4 performs.

Any predictions on which will sell better?

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Does he have a point?

I think so.

I know that even personally I do that. I often am more willing to give a game a chance if it's a Gamecube exclusive. This is true of Tales of Symphonia, which is probably one of my top 5 games ever and yet if it had come out for PS2 and not Gamecube I probably would have ignored it in the face of all the other rpgs the PS2 has to offer. But since it was coming for GC, my favorite system this gen and also an rpg starved system, it caught my eye and I ended up giving it a chance.

To me, my reasoning is that it's so easy for companies to release it on PS2 because they know they'll make money from the huge user base. I like when companies are willing to take a chance on releasing a game on the Gamecube. It seems to me like they are taking a bolder route that way, and I respect that.

Well, those are my thoughts. Anyone else have something to add?

That's the problem. Nintendo fans oftentimes dismiss anything that doesn't come to GameCube first, or isn't entirely exclusive, which is why many multi-platform third party games don't sell nearly as well on GCN as they do other consoles.

On top of that, GameCube owners have not exactly rallied behind titles targeted specifically at adult gamers. The mere fact that a game like Kirby Air Ride, considered a disappointment, outsold the critically acclaimed Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem, is very telling, as far as I'm concerned. The same can be said of the Resident Evil series, which has so far not performed as well on Nintendo's console as it has on Sony systems, past or present.

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I might agree with that 1st sentence slightly.   Many people are multi system so they want the game whereever it comes out 1st... and they don't need to buy it for another console... that is most likely to be the problem.  PLUS  when a game comes out for the Gamecube BUT it was released 6 months earlier on the other system .. there is no more hype for it to bring it better sales.  Case in point, Burnout 2 came out for the PS2, and then nearly 1 YEAR later... of course it didn't sell well on the Xbox or Cube.

Eternal Darkness didn't sell well.... IT just was not marketed well.   3rd party (even 2nd party companies) need to learn to MARKET WELL.
That helps sell their games.

the RES Series.... come on... REs 2,  3, and Code Veronica were horrible REHASHES.  Why pay $30 for them when you can get them for $10 on the PSX.  Res 1 and 0 should have sold better.... but again... I don't think Capcom put the hype behind them.  You cannot expect rehashed to do well at all.

Now, Treasures Ikaruga..... didn't sell that well.... but they were VERY happy with how it sold on the Gamecube.  They sold way more than they expected.... mainly due to fan hype..etc... Ikaruga (Gamecube exclusive) just sold well.

Honestly, I don't think ANYONE knows why the Gamecube is not selling as well... but I think there is bad 3rd party vide that needs to be broken down..... there is some unknown barrier that is preventing cube games from selling better.  There is no reason why Nintendo shouldn't be doing good.   Mainly, I think people aren't giving them a chance and checking out the games.

On top of that, GameCube owners have not exactly rallied behind titles targeted specifically at adult gamers.

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I think that is because people still say the Cube is kiddy. Also, a lot of people who want more adult style games have many systems... and just buy the other adult related games on the other systems.

Last MGS sold like crap....... yes..... but is there a reason why? I don't understand it to be honest. yes, it was a rehash, but it was redone well.
I cannot understand why it did sell like crap.

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MGS sold like crap

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I'm sorry, but when I first saw this I assumed it was meant in a bad way. Honestly, how well does crap sell?

Other than that cheezy joke I have no other opinions. Or at least right now, at any rate.

Yeah - you're incredibly biased.

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Well if that isn't the kettle calling the teacup a liar, or wait, how does that go again? Something about... kettle... wasn't there a pot there too, or something... either way Neph, we're all biased to some extent, that's why we all have different opinions. If you have a different opinion, share it, don't simply point out the fact that someone has an opinion and say it in a negative light.

Neph....

If I am a fangirl, at least I'm in the right forum.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe the reason why the PS2 forum isn't as busy is because you waste all of your posts in this forum arguing with us?

If you want to keep arguing with me, that's up to you, but it's like arguing with a brick wall. I'm not going to change my opinion.

I just think it would be a better use of your time if you posted in a forum about a system you actually liked. I mean, that's logical, right?