How many members here are Christians?

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retro junkie said:
I don't listen to heavy metal myself. I mostly like the Christian rock. I don't understand the assumption that just because it is labeled "Christian" that it has to be bad. The talent is just as awesome in the Christian bands as in Mainstream bands.
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Agreed fully.
 
For christian metal, try Demon Hunter, the new SKillet, or Project 86 if anyone really cares, send a personal message, i can give you some other leads,

I'm a music nerd.

oh, and a believer.
 
Dart said:
Blasting Switchfoot at this moment. :rockin Rock on Christian rockers and metalheads. :D
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Oh, I like Switchfoot. I heard one of their songs on the radio today and it reminded me that I need to put their CD on my Zune.
 
Mai Valentine said:
Oh, I like Switchfoot. I heard one of their songs on the radio today and it reminded me that I need to put their CD on my Zune.
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The only album I thought was bad from them was legacy of Chin (or something like that. I purchased their first three CDs in a set.
 
fhqwhgads said:
I'm not a Christian. In fact, I'm probably closer to atheist than anything.
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Pretty much the same for me. If you had a list of Christians in the world, I would be on there, but I don't follow the religion nor participate in any Christian rituals such as praying, church, etc.
 
Jack said:
Pretty much the same for me. If you had a list of Christians in the world, I would be on there, but I don't follow the religion nor participate in any Christian rituals such as praying, church, etc.
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:lol

I don't understand you man. What papers and lists are you referring to? By your logic I could say I was a pilot, or a doctor, or coal miner, even though I don't fly planes, practice medicine, or mine coal. To me it sounds like you're as much a Daoist as you are a Christian.
 
Ugh. I'm looked upon by the government as a Christian. An example would be like, "I have a 360, but I don't play it. That still qualifies me as a 360 owner though". I'm technically Christian...but my heart says otherwise.
 
Jack said:
Ugh. I'm looked upon by the government as a Christian. An example would be like, "I have a 360, but I don't play it. That still qualifies me as a 360 owner though". I'm technically Christian...but my heart says otherwise.
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Although I understand what you're saying, that's not how it works nor does your analogy fit your case. You didn't buy Christianity and you probably didn't choose it either. It's not an item that you can keep, you either are or you aren't. And since you say your heart says otherwise then it sounds like you just denounced it from your life. The government doesn't look upon you as Christian nor do they care what religion you are because you're free to believe in whatever you want to believe, there is separation between church and state. There is no official document that states what religion you are. The only time the government cares is when you are actually part of church, for example a priest or a cardinal.
 
CreepinDeth said:
Although I understand what you're saying, that's not how it works nor does your analogy fit your case. You didn't buy Christianity and you probably didn't choose it either. It's not an item that you can keep, you either are or you aren't. And since you say your heart says otherwise then it sounds like you just denounced it from your life. The government doesn't look upon you as Christian nor do they care what religion you are because you're free to believe in whatever you want to believe, there is separation between church and state. There is no official document that states what religion you are. The only time the government cares is when you are actually part of church, for example a priest or a cardinal.
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IIRC the Census that the US Government does every so often asks for the religion of the the answerer. Simply put, Jack most likely has "Christianity" on his "report" so to speak.



Anyways, I'm a Deist, which still falls under Christianity. Deism in itself is more of a set of beliefs that go along with Christianity, rather than an actual religion in itself (as compared to protestants, etc.)

In a nutshell:

Deists typically reject supernatural events (prophecy, miracles) and tend to assert that God does not interfere with human life and the laws of the universe. What organized religions see as divine revelation and holy books, most deists see as interpretations made by other humans, rather than as authoritative sources.

and:

The concept of deism covers a wide variety of positions on a wide variety of religious issues. Following Sir Leslie Stephen's English Thought in the Eighteenth Century, most commentators agree that two features constituted the core of deism:

The rejection of revealed religion — this was the critical aspect of deism.
The belief that reason, not faith, leads us to certain basic religious truths — this was the positive or constructive aspect of deism.
Deist authors advocated a combination of both critical and constructive elements in proportions and emphases that varied from author to author.

Critical elements of deist thought included:

Rejection of all religions based on books that claim to contain the revealed word of God.
Rejection of reports of miracles, prophecies and religious "mysteries".
Rejection of the Genesis account of creation and the doctrine of original sin, along with all similar beliefs.
Rejection of Judaism, Christianity, Islam and other religious beliefs.
Constructive elements of deist thought included:

God exists and created the universe.
God wants human beings to behave morally.
Human beings have souls that survive death; that is, there is an afterlife.
In the afterlife, God will reward moral behavior and punish immoral behavior. Although, others believe God wants humans to be moral and affect what they can in their mortal lives, and they will be rewarded in the same life.


All stolen from Wikipedia, but it does a good job of explaining it, IMO.
 
Jack said:
Ugh. I'm looked upon by the government as a Christian. An example would be like, "I have a 360, but I don't play it. That still qualifies me as a 360 owner though". I'm technically Christian...but my heart says otherwise.
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Not to beat a dead horse or anything, but I'd think that owning a 360 does indeed qualify you as a 360 owner, but in no way does it qualify you as a 360 fan. Like me. I have 26 Bibles in my house. Almost a hundred books on theology and the like. But if I don't bother opening one of those Bibles, then my label as a Christian is meaningless. I'd just be a Bible owner.

As far as what the government thinks, that means nothing. Religion status is a little farther down the road of insignificance than race status. Want to know if you are a real Christian? Think for a minute on what if Christianity was illegal. Could they easily convict you if it were a crime?
 
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look, you believe in Christ as the son of God, you a christisan, if not, then no, your family don't count, goin' to church don't count, and what the government thinks sure as hell don't count.


but, that's just my lowly opinion.
 
Nova said:
IIRC the Census that the US Government does every so often asks for the religion of the the answerer. Simply put, Jack most likely has "Christianity" on his "report" so to speak.
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking he was talking about too.

You guys keep talking about the fact that Baptism doesn't make a person Christian, but that's not the point. Jack admits that he doesn't give Christianity much importance, but he would likely be listed as a Christian, being that the last census was 8 years ago and, being that he was Baptized, I would assume that his parents marked him down as being Christian.

@Dart, how did you get so many freaking Bibles? :lol
 
Well I have been thinking about this for a while, and I think I am Christian. I think the reason that I think I'm not a Christian is because I'm gay. Even though I know you can be both, I guess I just kind of never considered that for myself. Does that make sense?
 
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