I really believe this is the last year for PC gaming...(2008)

fhqwhgads said:
And if someone bought a separate computer just to play games, your point is lost.
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Who buys a computer just to play games? I've never heard of such a person.

And:

Fr0dus Maximus said:
and as he says it costs less than consoles. so yea.
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Fr0dus Maximus said:
Well I was just stating other options since some people can't seem to have enough for an 8800GT
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Ah, true. There are great options that are cheaper. Hell, I still play on a 6800GS. :)

fhqwhgads said:
Not all the time, it doesn't.
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If you spent much more than a PS3 to build a computer mainly for games then you wasted your money.
 
It all comes down to the hardware u choose. Get cheap stuff on sites like newegg and u can easily make a decent rig. Don't have enough speed or don't meet the requirements? Overclock it.
 
fhqwhgads said:
Not all the time, it doesn't.
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Exactly what features would you strip away from a PC that would make it a stand alone gaming PC that ONLY plays games? Internet? DVD rom/burner? That's the point, PC has the same features of current consoles yet they offer so much more flexibility and "tweakability". When you buy a console you're stuck with what you have, unless of course you want to void the warranty and risk being out $300-400 when your drive fails ::)
 
Polygon said:
Ah, true. There are great options that are cheaper. Hell, I still play on a 6800GS. :)
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My main compy is:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ 2.0 GHZ
2 Gigs RAM
Radeon X1300 Pro 256 MB
320 GB internal harddrive
500 GB Western Digital external harddrive
 
Fr0dus Maximus said:
My main compy is:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ 2.0 GHZ
2 Gigs RAM
Radeon X1300 Pro 256 MB
320 GB internal harddrive
500 GB Western Digital external harddrive
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Not bad at all. Have you overclocked that CPU any? My 64 X2 was able to overclock from 1.9Ghz to 2.6Ghz no sweat. I could have gone more but my motherboard hit its maximum and my RAM was kinda crappy. If you have a good motherboard and RAM I bet you can push it a whole Ghz! That's why I love those little dual core Athlons, they're dirt cheap and overclock like mad!
 
Ah that's right, I hate how Dell completely locks any overclock options in the BIOS. Depending the brand of BIOS chip you have, you may actually be able to unlock all the original options the BIOS menu. I never had to do it so I am not sure how, but a search would tell you how if need be.
 
Polygon said:
I have the 3800+ as well. I don't have it OCed but I took it to about 2.4 stable. Beyond that it wouldn't POST.
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That is most likely your motherboard's limit than, since I know a 3800 can hit more then that. Have you tried lowering your RAM's multiplier so it runs at a lower frequency?
 
x2 said:
That is most likely your motherboard's limit than, since I know a 3800 can hit more then that. Have you tried lowering your RAM's multiplier so it runs at a lower frequency?
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I'm knew that was probably the reason. I just never bothered to lower the clock speed on the memory. I know the board could have done whatever I want. It will even let my drive the voltages to levels that would fry most RAM. :)

I was mainly messing around and didn't care since I didn't want to OC anyhow, not sure why.
 
fhqwhgads said:
Actually, he has a point. If you have too weak of a graphics card, you just lost a good chunk of the library. Don't have the money to buy a new one? Oh well, you're screwed. Buy a console, you got five, six years of games, of which you can play all of them. Buy a graphics card, you have five, six years of games, in which you can play most, but two or three years in, they start making games you can't handle, but want.
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Except in 2-3 years, whatever game comes out on the PS3 looks inifnitly better on the PC. Right now, no console can physically run Crysis without dumbing it down to Far Cry: Instincts status (speaking of which, no console back then could handle Far Cry either). The 360 could only handle Oblivion at medium settings. I highly doubt any current console will be able to handle Far Cry 2 at any level.

Look, this happens every 5 years or so. The new consoles come out, and they look better then PC's. Within 2-3 years, the PC's have already topped in graphics and everything else.

no, i wont show respect to pc gaming lmao. its a huge hassle (btw, cherry, i dont want to hear it, so just hold your tongue) to play games on a pc.
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Translation: "You're not allowed to counter my arguement" Save for replacing a motherboard, building a computer is like playing with lego's. Everything just snaps together.

not to mention, mouse and keyboard cant come close to a good designed controller, such as the 360 controller
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No, no, and good god no. Mouse and Keyboard are infinitly more percise then a dual analog could ever get. All shooters for consoles use Auto-Aim or Auot-Assist in some manner, whether you're aware of it or not.

And if someone bought a separate computer just to play games, your point is lost.
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If you bought a 360 just to watch DVD's and listen to music, wouldn't the point also be lost? Nobody buys a computer JUST for games. A gaming computer can still do everything an office computer can.

Want a comparison? A Indie racecar could still be used for normal driving on the highway, couldn't it?

Anyway, my computer specs:

Core 2 Duo E6750 (yet to be installed, still have to get a new motherboard)
Geforce 8800 GTS 320 MB (only cost me $200 off of Newegg)
2 GB of PQI turboram PC4200 (a tad old by todays standards, but theys till hold up)
A standard 200 GB hard drive (hoping to get a Raptor someday :))
 
precision? mouse and keyboard might have the edge. durability? ease of use? functionality? comfort? controllers top mouse and keyboard in all of those areas.
 
Hinesmdc said:
durability?
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That's really gonna depend on the mouse. If you buy one that isn't cheap, it should probably last you quite a while.
Hinesmdc said:
ease of use?
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That would probably come down to personal preference.
Hinesmdc said:
functionality?
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What do exactly do you mean by functionality?
Hinesmdc said:
comfort?
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That would again depend on the mouse, and the controller you are comparing. Some mouses (mice?) conform to your hand very nicely, and are quite comfortable, and some don't. It's the same with controllers.

(ugh, Sorry for starting another argument here...I swear I'm trying to work on it. :lol)
 
idk about you, but my hands cramp up after about a half hour of a pc fps

by functionality i mean it will be amazing for all types of games, not just rts and fps, like pc

and you seriously need to stop the argument thing, i didnt send you that pm as a joke, i actually want there to be peace between us
 
Homicidal Cherry53 said:
That would probably come down to personal preference.
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Everything is always personal preference, stop bringing that point up.
 
Hinesmdc said:
idk about you, but my hands cramp up after about a half hour of a pc fps

by functionality i mean it will be amazing for all types of games, not just rts and fps, like pc
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Again its the mouse.

Use a controller if you like the 360 controller is USB.

Hinesmdc said:
precision? mouse and keyboard might have the edge. durability? ease of use? functionality? comfort? controllers top mouse and keyboard in all of those areas.
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all down to if you give a crap about how it feels. Look at the original Xbox controllers those were massively HUGE and uncomfortable and what did people do? Went and bought the S-controller.

I need a new mouse myself its a freaking tank. How much do the G5 or G7s cost now?
 
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