Jackson Aquitted

Actually, rumours has it MJ will have a consert in Europe this summer. I hope it works out for him.
 
Retro Hero said:
He'll probably need a lot of bodyguards...
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I highly doubt that. I mean people dont like him. But I think at the same time they dont want anything to do with him. There are still plenty of people who support him.
 
he's creepy, the previous events surrounding him about similar things, the whole mind set on sleeping with children not his own, etc kind of scares the crap out of me
i read a lot about it and saw the jurors. let me tell you, the defense did well in there choosing. that old woman was one dumb 'perra'
that tard releasing the dove after the trial..
weirdos attract more of themselves around them
there's enough people to still fill the places he would tour at (euro or us), it's if he can handle it.
 
He's a weirdo, no doubt about that. People say he used to be a handsome, young, black man. Now he's more like an old, white woman. ;)

But still, can we judge his entire career based on the last ten years? Take a look at the Thriller video. This was the first music video with a story. Ever. And not only is it a great video, but it's a very good song as well. "Remember the time"? Excellent. "Bad"? Uh, got a new meaning these days, but still a great song. And the list goes on and on. He was the King of Pop once, and that hasn't changed much. Jackson as a person is as weird as they get, but Jackson as an artist is about as great as they get. And to put it like this, can any one of you say you have never, ever done something stupid you regret? Didn't think so. ;)
 
But this has nothing to do with him as an artist, that's how he got let off in my opinion. This is about him as a person. In person he's an abused soul who lets children sleep in the same bed as him. Even if he didn't do what he was accused of, I think he needs some form of help, instead of being protected all the time.
 
Retro Hero said:
But this has nothing to do with him as an artist, that's how he got let off in my opinion. This is about him as a person. In person he's an abused soul who lets children sleep in the same bed as him. Even if he didn't do what he was accused of, I think he needs some form of help, instead of being protected all the time.
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I agree with you there. I do believe he has done something in the past.
 
Everyone has done something bad in the past. The trick is to learn from those experiences and not do it again. If you want a great example, a childhood friend of mine started using drugs in her teen years. She became a junkie and even found herself in prison before she finally realized she had a problem. When she finally got out she got into rehab, and the last few years she's been normal just like you and me. She even got a job and a nice appartement. So to the question: Should we all avoid her because she used to be a junkie, or should we get to know her as the person she is today and give her a second chance? :?
 
Nightwolf said:
Everyone has done something bad in the past. The trick is to learn from those experiences and not do it again. If you want a great example, a childhood friend of mine started using drugs in her teen years. She became a junkie and even found herself in prison before she finally realized she had a problem. When she finally got out she got into rehab, and the last few years she's been normal just like you and me. She even got a job and a nice appartement. So to the question: Should we all avoid her because she used to be a junkie, or should we get to know her as the person she is today and give her a second chance? :?
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The thing is we dont know if hes been rehabilitated or not. Which is why I wouldnt trust him with my children. Especially since he admitted to sleeping with children in the same bed. Yes he got acquitted in the last trial. But that doesnt mean he is innocent. And not everybody learns from their experiences. Some need professional help in order to get better. You're friend is lucky and I have the utmost respect for people who work hard to get where they're at and not make excuses of why they are doing bad in life.
 
Again, I think there's something seriously wrong with Jackson, but that should not affect his musical career that much. And yes, my friend was very lucky to have friend who supported her when she needed them the most. (that would be me and a few others.) We didn't give up on her, and it worked. Just like we shouldn't give up on MJ. As for not trusting him with your kids, is that even an option? :?
 
You're right, there is no option. I would not let him near my children. Im sure his career wont hurt as much as long as he hooks up with the right people. But I do believe he needs professional help. Drugs are on thing because they're mostly physical symptoms that you encounter, its a little bit easier to overcome (depending on the drug or drugs). But when its purely psychological is when it gets tricky
 
Drugs are really hard to get over, trust me. If you use it once, it's a great experience. (again, trust me...) :o The problem is if you use it too much, you get addicted. The biggest problem with addiction is that you don't realize you have a problem, and everything could easily fall appart around you. Even when you have lost everything including your house, job and most friends, you care about nothing except the drugs. Ten years after you have been to rehab, you still feel you "need" drugs. I doubt anyone can get over it, so if you do have a friend that has used drugs too much it's very important to not give them up. You can get really mad at each other from time to time, but that's just temporary.

Isn't it the same with Jackson? He has done bad things, and will forever be marked as "that weirdo". But what about those "gangsta rappers"? Many of them have used drugs a lot, and crime has been a hot subject in their ordinary life for years. Now that they are rich and famous, most get over it. But still, should we ignore where they come from? Even 50 Cent say his voice is special since he got shot in the mouth by a rival gang, and some say he used to sell drugs. Should we ignore it and care about him as an artist? How is Jackson that different from him?
 
Nightwolf said:
Drugs are really hard to get over, trust me. If you use it once, it's a great experience. (again, trust me...) :o The problem is if you use it too much, you get addicted. The biggest problem with addiction is that you don't realize you have a problem, and everything could easily fall appart around you. Even when you have lost everything including your house, job and most friends, you care about nothing except the drugs. Ten years after you have been to rehab, you still feel you "need" drugs. I doubt anyone can get over it, so if you do have a friend that has used drugs too much it's very important to not give them up. You can get really mad at each other from time to time, but that's just temporary.

Isn't it the same with Jackson? He has done bad things, and will forever be marked as "that weirdo". But what about those "gangsta rappers"? Many of them have used drugs a lot, and crime has been a hot subject in their ordinary life for years. Now that they are rich and famous, most get over it. But still, should we ignore where they come from? Even 50 Cent say his voice is special since he got shot in the mouth by a rival gang, and some say he used to sell drugs. Should we ignore it and care about him as an artist? How is Jackson that different from him?
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I agree with the drug part. I didnt want people to think that its easy to get over drugs. Personally I dont care too much about Michael right now. I just want for him to go get professional help. The difference between "gangsta rappers" and MJ is that MJ didnt grow up around the same type of atmosphere. Sure he had it hard, which I think is one of the reasons why he is like this today, but not as bad as someone who grows up around extreme violence and drugs. I will only ignore Micheal if his music sucks. If it doesnt sound good to me then I dont want to hear it, same goes for any other artist.
 
And that was the point all along. It shouldn't matter how you feel about him as a person. Even Da Vinci was a weirdo, but do you ignore everything he did? I heard Einstein had a daughter, but didn't want anything to do with her since she "didn't fit into his life" or something. Among other things. Yet both Da Vinci and Einstein did great things for mankind.
 
Nightwolf said:
And that was the point all along. It shouldn't matter how you feel about him as a person. Even Da Vinci was a weirdo, but do you ignore everything he did? I heard Einstein had a daughter, but didn't want anything to do with her since she "didn't fit into his life" or something. Among other things. Yet both Da Vinci and Einstein did great things for mankind.
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Sure they may have done great things but I doubt any of them were pedophiles. Its the severity of his actions is what Im talking about. Thats the thing, MJ needs professional help so he can understand that there are certain things that you just dont do. If he makes a comeback career wise then good on him. But that doesnt mean he has changed his feelings about sleeping with young children.
 
Sleeping with children isn't the same as having sex with them. Besides, he was innocent in the things he was accused for, right? I like to believe people are innocent until proven guilty.
 
Nightwolf said:
Sleeping with children isn't the same as having sex with them. Besides, he was innocent in the things he was accused for, right? I like to believe people are innocent until proven guilty.
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Uh, yes we have established that already. I know what he meant when he said he slept with children. Which also makes me concerned. Just because he was found not guilty for this last trial doesnt mean that I have to trust him alone with my children. Thats just how I feel. I would feel much better if he gets checked out with a psychiatrist and gets an OK from him.
 
Good point. But on the other hand, have you ever met him? I would like to sit down and talk to him before I decide if I like him or not. It's the only way to be sure.
 
Nightwolf said:
Good point. But on the other hand, have you ever met him? I would like to sit down and talk to him before I decide if I like him or not. It's the only way to be sure.
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Im sure hes a nice guy face to face. As it seems he does fine with adults. But he loves children. He likes to share his bed with them. That to me is a little weird and wouldnt allow my children near him. I dont hate him. But I would just be cautious as any other parent should be.
 
Just like you would be careful not to let your kids get too close to a guy you know have sold and used drugs, and got a "special voice" after getting shot in the mouth. ;)

But another question. What if MJ never had bothered with all that plastic surgery, paling his skin and all that? Would that be just as bad? It's the same person, after all. Or what if he did, but did not sleep with children?

Last, how do you feel about his early career, like Thriller, Bad and Remember the time? I like all of those songs, and think he's a great artist. Even the latest album (Invincible, I think, never actually bought it) is quite good.
 
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