K really, no tip?

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redneckgamer 213 said:
I always leave something sometimes it's jsut a penny to try and drive home the point that your not doing your job well and I didn't forget a tip.
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I usualy try to leave a 15 perecent tip no matter what. Extra if they did a good job. I consider it to be part of the price of my meal.... to each his own I guess. lol
 
Priince said:
So I'm a waiter now, probably the best waiter ever, and 3 people didn't tip last night, and like 2 peopel tipped less then 10%, I don't get it. I had three people out of 5 give me a $10 tip, then some butt hat gave me two bucks. To be honestly, bad tippers = white trash kids and old people.
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Calling them 'white trash' isn't very courteous...
 
I make $2.13/h + tips. So if you don't tip me, then I make... 2 bucks an hour. Utah is stupid. They figure Hourly + tips should = at least mim wage.
 
Priince said:
I make $2.13/h + tips. So if you don't tip me, then I make... 2 bucks an hour. Utah is stupid. They figure Hourly + tips should = at least mim wage.
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Wait, don't they have to pay you minimum wage? I mean, I thought you couldn't pay someone lower than minimum wage is that you couldn't pay anyone lower than that. :?
 
Priince said:
I make $2.13/h + tips. So if you don't tip me, then I make... 2 bucks an hour. Utah is stupid. They figure Hourly + tips should = at least mim wage.
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Actually, federal law, which supercedes state law when it comes to the Federal Minimum Wage Act, dictates that if someone who works in a service type industry that recieves tips does not collect enough tips to meet the federal minimum wage, then the owner of the establishment must pony up the cash to bring it up to at least the minimum wage.

If it's a Utah law, then you can fight it. After all, Utah should have learned it's lesson the last time they attempted to enact laws that contradicted federal laws...
 
I hate tipping. Tipping is something you should do if the person serving you does an extraordinary job and you want to show them your appreciation. It should be thought of as a bonus, not something mandatory. I have worked at numerous jobs where I was getting paid minimum wage and I did not receive tips of any kind. It seems like a pretty ridiculous double standard when you're in that position and you're expected to tip because the people serving you at a restaurant are "only getting minimum wage."

Having said that I almost always tip waiters/waitresses. 10% if they weren't that good, or if I'm low on cash, 15%-20% if they earned it and I can afford it.
 
stealth toilet said:
I hate tipping. Tipping is something you should do if the person serving you does an extraordinary job and you want to show them your appreciation. It should be thought of as a bonus, not something mandatory. I have worked at numerous jobs where I was getting paid minimum wage and I did not receive tips of any kind. It seems like a pretty ridiculous double standard when you're in that position and you're expected to tip because the people serving you at a restaurant are "only getting minimum wage."
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The thing is (as Priince said), waiters usually get less than the minimum wage, so basically restaurants are expecting you to pay their employees for them.
 
Homicidal Cherry53 said:
The thing is (as Priince said), waiters usually get less than the minimum wage, so basically restaurants are expecting you to pay their employees for them.
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If the owner is crooked, yes. Usually waiters will count up their tips at the end of the night, and the tips and the $2.13 or whatever it is equal the minimum wage, then all is well. If it doesn't, then the business owner is obligated to kick in the difference to raise it up to the minimum wage.

You know, it took me longer to write "minimum" than it did to write the rest of this entire post??
 
Dart said:
If the owner is crooked, yes. Usually waiters will count up their tips at the end of the night, and the tips and the $2.13 or whatever it is equal the minimum wage, then all is well. If it doesn't, then the business owner is obligated to kick in the difference to raise it up to the minimum wage.

You know, it took me longer to write "minimum" than it did to write the rest of this entire post??
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Well then it seems to me that the customer is paying over half the waiter's salary. I mean, sure, its common courtesy to tip, but can't owners just pay their employees minimum wage, like in all other industries, and customers wouldn't have to tip. It just doesn't make sense to me...
 
Homicidal Cherry53 said:
Well then it seems to me that the customer is paying over half the waiter's salary. I mean, sure, its common courtesy to tip, but can't owners just pay their employees minimum wage, like in all other industries, and customers wouldn't have to tip. It just doesn't make sense to me...
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I blame the IRS for this. Well, I blame the IRS for everything from global warming to the mail lady smashing my mail box with the side of her car. It really doesn't make sense. But it's set up that way, and I doubt it will change.

Besides, when you buy food at a restaraunt, you are also paying the waiter's wages... :D
 
By the way, who ever keeps saying min wage is a national government thing, and that it over rides state laws, you're wrong. min wage is a state controled thing, in every state, look it up, some states are as high as 8 bucks an hour, while others are lower then the national average. It all depends on the states work force and econ. I have looked for jobs here in Utah and in California, and both states have the same rules, you only have to pay 2.15 and hour if the person is working for tips.
 
Priince said:
By the way, who ever keeps saying min wage is a national government thing, and that it over rides state laws, you're wrong. min wage is a state controled thing, in every state, look it up, some states are as high as 8 bucks an hour, while others are lower then the national average. It all depends on the states work force and econ. I have looked for jobs here in Utah and in California, and both states have the same rules, you only have to pay 2.15 and hour if the person is working for tips.
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No, the states can't have a minimum wage lower than the national one, but they can make make it higher...
 
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