Kirby Puckett Died....
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Sukmidik
man that sucks
creepindeth04
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This man was an awsome baseball player. I watched him in the world series as a little kid. I can remember him jumping up into the plexi glass and robbing a homerun. I also remember when he hit the game winning homerun to send it to 7 games. RIP Mr. Puckett. You were one of the greats.
Yeah I was absolutely shocked. I was going to work on Sunday and I'd heard he suffered a stroke and needed brain surgery but it wasn't until Monday night when I got home that I realized he died. It truly is a sad day. Kirby was truly one of the last of the pre-steroid era players and he will be missed. :'(
KirbyRockz
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Strubes said:
Uhmmm...? XD Sorry, I couldn't help myself. Sorry if I sound like a complete idiot that lives under a rock, but who might Kirby Puckett be? *Googles it*
creepindeth04
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Strubes said:
Actually it's not that hard. Just put up really good numbers and stay consistent.
It's definitely hard. They were just doing a show on ESPN about it. Some players that have had consistent numbers, and even shaped baseball to what it is today haven't been named. There's alot of controversy about how hard it is to get in, cause most of the people voting have never played baseball and alot don't even keep up with the sport or look back in history to check certain stats. It was pointed out and even validated that some voters pick people based on names that they know or even favors for friends. If it was just on consistency, it would be easy to name big-name players into the Hall of Fame. That's why only one guy got in this year.
creepindeth04
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Strubes said:
Which guy? And no it's not that hard, many players who are in deserve to be in, of course there will be some who get shun but it's because there is only a limited amount of players that can go in at any given year. Plus a lot of players dont have many of their numbers on record so it's hard to put them on the ballot.
Ok, in your opinion apparently it isn't hard, even though barely anyone voting knows about the stats or anything. Many players that deserved to be in have been shunned and players that just made it into the voting came up big. Why? They were known by the voters. It's completely bogus to say it's easy as long as you have numbers and are consistent cause most of the players that are persistent are looked over for more common names. It took Ryne Sandberg 3 years before he was voted into the Hall of Fame even when he had very good and consistent.
creepindeth04
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Strubes said:
I agree to a point. There is only so many players who can go in that some will get shun.
I'm going to look up Ryne Sandberg's numbers. I know he was good but I didn't get to see much of him before he retired.
creepindeth04
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I just looked up Sandberg's numbers. They are pretty average, even for a second baseman.
1,061 RBI's - Not even 2,000. The magic number is 3,000 but for an infielder 2,000 is it. He barely reached 1,000 in 16 seasons.
.285 Batting Average - The magic number for this is .300, especially for an infielder who is expected to get on base more often and score runs.
2,386 Hits - Magic number is 3,000, which in my opinion he should have hit since the rest of his numbers aren't so great. But not a bad number to have.
344 Stolen Bases - Again not a bad number but when the rest of your numbers aren't so great it's still not enough to get you into the hall of fame
In conclusion, ESPN should have picked someone else to set an example because Ryne Sandberg, although a good player, doesn't have the numbers to make him a first ballot hall of famer. But he still got in even with those numbers, so it is not that hard to get into the hall of fame if you're a really good player. You don't even have to put up huge numbers like Bonds or McGwire in order to get in. You might not be on the first ballot but Im sure you'll get in eventually.
1,061 RBI's - Not even 2,000. The magic number is 3,000 but for an infielder 2,000 is it. He barely reached 1,000 in 16 seasons.
.285 Batting Average - The magic number for this is .300, especially for an infielder who is expected to get on base more often and score runs.
2,386 Hits - Magic number is 3,000, which in my opinion he should have hit since the rest of his numbers aren't so great. But not a bad number to have.
344 Stolen Bases - Again not a bad number but when the rest of your numbers aren't so great it's still not enough to get you into the hall of fame
In conclusion, ESPN should have picked someone else to set an example because Ryne Sandberg, although a good player, doesn't have the numbers to make him a first ballot hall of famer. But he still got in even with those numbers, so it is not that hard to get into the hall of fame if you're a really good player. You don't even have to put up huge numbers like Bonds or McGwire in order to get in. You might not be on the first ballot but Im sure you'll get in eventually.
Although his numbers weren't staggering for his position...
Those were the reasons he was considered first ballot status. I'm gonna have to go with baseball experts on this.
I do think we've strayed a little away from Kirby Puckett's death though. Does anyone know how many family members he left behind?
Those were the reasons he was considered first ballot status. I'm gonna have to go with baseball experts on this.
I do think we've strayed a little away from Kirby Puckett's death though. Does anyone know how many family members he left behind?
creepindeth04
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Strubes said:
I don't know how many he left. I know he was engaged and was turning his life around which just sucks even more.
As for Sandberg's nine straight gold glove and ten consecutive all star appearances, those don't count so much for HOF ballots. Numbers do. So if you can give me a link or something so I can read up more on this, I would appreciate it. I watch baseball and ESPN and know how they think about baseball. So it kind of makes me wonder why they would say such things. Ryne Sandberg got in but shouldn't be considered a first time ballot inductee. The bottome line really is that he got in anyways. Which doesn't really prove their point. Now if they would have picked someone who isn't in the hall yet and has waited many years then maybe they might have some type of point.