Macabre (Mature Content)

Zidart said:
i'm sorry but part of me as a human doesn't agree that we should kill a person that committed a crime right in the spot, people can change and learn from their mistakes, and maybe after 10 years of being in jail they might learn to not commit a crime ever again, but of course that has to depend on the gravity of the crime, i mean i would agree to give death penalty to a serial killer that has killed 12 people already.

people are too willing to look at the punishment rather than the reason for having it there in the first place. It's not one of those, "Don't do this or else!" things. It's more like, "Hey man. Think before you do this because there is a consequence." Capitol punishment is supposed to be a deterrment. When used effectively, it's supposed to carry the idea that if someone commits a crime, there will be a swift consequence. The system in the U.S is horribly broken. In the 19th century, people convicted of crimes were hung from hours to days after judgment. It was quite effective in deterring crime. Now if someone is convicted of a crime, they get to sit on death row for up to ten years and be able to appeal their cases, in some states, over and over again until they die of natural causes.

We have the technology to convict without doubt. We should have the stones to carry out the sentence.

As for change, that is a very small percentage. Most people in prison today are repeat offenders. Meaning they repeat the same actions that put them there in the first place. They complain about not having "rehabilitation." Rehabilitation is a two way street. They have to want to change. Most are either too lazy or too stupid to change. And as such, they recieve their lot in life.
 
Dart said:
The system in the U.S is horribly broken. In the 19th century, people convicted of crimes were hung from hours to days after judgment. It was quite effective in deterring crime.
I'd say that the facts greatly contradict that statement, given that the European Union has gotten rid of the death penalty altogether and the crime rate in the U.S is higher than that of any EU country. Not only that but crime rates have fallen here, in recent years, in spite of a reduction in frequency of the death penalty, and it being abolished altogether in some states. I'd say that this shows that consequence has a minor effect, if any at all, on the prevalence of crime.
 
Dart said:
It's not one of those, "Don't do this or else!" things. It's more like, "Hey man. Think before you do this because there is a consequence."
That's exactly what I said when selling M rated games to minors in New York became a felony.
 
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