NY Times article on Wii

fhqwhgads said:
Graphics don't make the game, a low budget, sure, but that's bad how? Last I checked, a lot of PS3 games sucked, and a lot of Wii games sucked less than those.

It could mean that they'll rush games out on the Wii, make their profit, and focus making better games on 360. From how I'm reading it, developers are just looking at the Wii to make money and not provide an actual awesome, immersive experience.
 
Retro Hero said:
Gamers are too impaitent these days. Some of you should have tried being a gamer in the early 90s.

im patient, im happy to admit that i have a wii and i like it.

i bought a dreamcast, and its still plugged in, thats what i call patient
 
CreepinDeth said:
It could mean that they'll rush games out on the Wii, make their profit, and focus making better games on 360. From how I'm reading it, developers are just looking at the Wii to make money and not provide an actual awesome, immersive experience.
And if they don't supply an 'actual awesome, immersive experience', no one will buy it. :/
 
CreepinDeth said:
It could mean that they'll rush games out on the Wii, make their profit, and focus making better games on 360. From how I'm reading it, developers are just looking at the Wii to make money and not provide an actual awesome, immersive experience.

Well I hope that is not their plan, because if that's the case it will most likely backfire. People have to buy the games for it to make money, and if they truly just give the Wii shovelware, I hope that people are smart enough to vote with their wallets by not buying it.
 
Not to mention literal shoveling minigames. Ninendo should stop letting third parties just do minigame games, 'cause since developers want to cash in on Wii's success, they should work on a great game.
 
I agree, although I'm still looking forward to Rayman Raving Rabbids 2. The first one was a great game to play at parties and just have fun and laugh like idiots. I love the crazy rabbids.

Other than that I really haven't been impressed with third party efforts, though.
 
fhqwhgads said:
Not to mention literal shoveling minigames. Ninendo should stop letting third parties just do minigame games, 'cause since developers want to cash in on Wii's success, they should work on a great game.
The problem is, great, complex games may not be the ones most successful because of the fact that the majority of Wii owners are casual gamers. We may end up seeing WiiFit, or some other casual game, outselling Metroid or Zelda.
 
Yeah, either it's minigames, or bad attempts at real games that have tacky motion control.

Cherry, that's very true, but it still hurts them. See, if you get a great hardcore game, then hardcores buy it. Win-win.
 
Homicidal Cherry53 said:
The problem is, great, complex games may not be the ones most successful because of the fact that the majority of Wii owners are casual gamers. We may end up seeing WiiFit, or some other casual game, outselling Metroid or Zelda.

I think WiiFit will probably outsell Metroid, but not Zelda. But Metroid has always been the least popular of the big Nintendo franchises.

I think in all honesty Super Smash will probably outsell everything, since it will appeal to the hardcore and the casual. Maybe not the soccer moms casuals, though.
 
That's 'cause Metroid has a severe lack of games. What, Corruption makes 12? Smash outsold everything on the GCN, of course it will on Wii. Wi-Fi shoots sales up more.
 
fhqwhgads said:
Wi-Fi shoots sales up more.

They haven't confirmed wi-fi yet for SSBB, though. Which is concerning. It would be a huge blow for Nintendo if it wasn't online. I don't think they would be able to recover from the fallout on that if it happened.
 
BUt then again, they've said they're trying very hard, but they noted if there was even a second of lag, it would fail. Which it would. So I'd rather have no Wi-Fi, than half assed crap Wi-Fi.
 
Mai Valentine said:
They haven't confirmed wi-fi yet for SSBB, though. Which is concerning. It would be a huge blow for Nintendo if it wasn't online. I don't think they would be able to recover from the fallout on that if it happened.
I would be unimaginably pissed if SSBB has no online...
Hinesmdc said:
Halo has 3, and has some of the biggest sales numbers ever. so your point is just not valid.
Its entirely valid because firstly, the was a huge break between Super Metroid and Metroid Prime, so by the time Metroid Prime came out, much of the fanbase had moved on. Plus, the Gamecube never exactly sold a lot of consoles...
fhqwhgads said:
BUt then again, they've said they're trying very hard, but they noted if there was even a second of lag, it would fail. Which it would. So I'd rather have no Wi-Fi, than half assed crap Wi-Fi.
The half-assed crap wifi is better than none at all, and it seems like there may very well be none at all...
 
Neither did the Xbox. PS2 is set at 120+ million and climbing, GCN at 21, Xbox at 24. The fanbase didn't 'move on' from Metroid, they shunned its 3D game until everyone said it was amazing.

EDIT: You'd rather have laggy, crap for Wi-Fi than none? Sad.
 
What fun is Smash Bros. if half your strategies don't work because of unpredictable lag?
 
I've dealt with lag playing DOA 4 on the 360. One time it was so bad we were literally moving like snails. If it's really bad you just don't play that person anymore because it's more of a connection issue.

Most lag is pretty tolerable though, and the good players learn to work around it.
 
No, the lag they were talking about wasn't so much connection as it was server problem. Not to mention, Smash is huge, there'd be so much lag because of overloads. And not only speed lag, movement lag. Like teleporting across the screen lag.
 
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