POLICE AUTHORITY

Should Police Be Allowed To Take Valuables From Empty CarsTo Teach A Lesson?

  • Yes

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No

    Votes: 11 100.0%

  • On The Fence

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    11
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MR.KAZ

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Every morning I wake up to "CMT".
They show news and stuff on a ticker at the bottom of the screen.This is one of their polls.
 
Ugh, how is taking something from an empty car teaching a lesson? That's just making theft (even if the item was stolen to begin with, they can't just take it).
 
Hell Scyth said:
Ugh, how is taking something from an empty car teaching a lesson? That's just making theft (even if the item was stolen to begin with, they can't just take it).
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By empty,I meant no people,not items.I should haven't been so vague,I'm sorry.I tried to edit it,but the "Modify" button wasn't available to change the question.
 
aleeock157 said:
What lesson would they be teaching? :lol I've never even heard of it.
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I'm not sure aleeock,
Maybe if someone left a DS in the glove box,go to get it and found that it was gone,kicking themselves for not have taken it into their house with them.
This gives the cop a chance to return it to the owner with a warning to be careful about what you leave in your car when you go into a grocery store,or wherever you go.
Personally,I'd be so relieved to see it,that the last thing I'll ever do is leave it my car,when I'm away from it again.Or you can put a huge Rottweiler in the back seat.
The problem I'm having with this is,what if the cop was a thief?

Peace.
Kaz
 
around me they don't take stuff, they have these really sticky stickers that they put on your window that says "If we can see it so can they" referring to like portable gps's and such
 
Taking something is commonly referred to as stealing. Now, if you possess something that is illegal, then yes and officer can take it because it's his duty.

Police officers cannot remove personal property unless it directly pertains to the case at hand. So in other words, the poll is moot.
 
Dart said:
Taking something is commonly referred to as stealing. Now, if you possess something that is illegal, then yes and officer can take it because it's his duty.

Police officers cannot remove personal property unless it directly pertains to the case at hand. So in other words, the poll is moot.
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That's kinda what I was trying to say, except failing.
 
MR.KAZ said:
By empty,I meant no people,not items.I should haven't been so vague,I'm sorry.I tried to edit it,but the "Modify" button wasn't available to change the question.
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Um, I kinda worked that out. Hence my statement.
 
Dart said:
Police officers cannot remove personal property unless it directly pertains to the case at hand. So in other words, the poll is moot.
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True, but I think he's suggesting that we let them take something if they give it back to the person after the fact.

Personally, I cringe at the idea of letting the police enter my property (my car in this case) just because I left a valuable object on the seat. A law that allowed this would make the fourth amendment almost useless. An ipod left sitting in the open would basically count as probable cause.
 
I would sue them, whether they gave it back to me or not. Maybe leaving an iPod on my seat wasn't smart, but if they broke into my car to take it to prove a point there would be hell to pay.
 
Homicidal Cherry53 said:
An ipod left sitting in the open would basically count as probable cause.
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Yeah but ipods are not illegal. Probable cause means there is obvious evidence that a crime may be in progress or has just occurred.

Now, I would admit, that if you are driving down a road and are stopped because you fit the description of someone who broke into a house in the area, and an ipod was on the list of things taken, then they could detain you and temporarily take the ipod. But if you are cleared, they must return any property taken.

This "I'm gonna take this to teach you a lesson" thought is crazy. Police cannot do this.
 
Phoenix said:
they can sure as hell try, but smith and wesson would let them know not to try it again.
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Yeah, that will end well. You pull a gun on a cop, and the cop will write up a report on how he put a bullet in your head.
 
Well putting aside the obvious 4th amendment issues which would probably make any such law unconstitutional I don't think you would find any legslative body or law enforcement agency that would be stupid enough to support a policy like this since you would have a constant problem with supiscion and aquistations of theft being commited by police.
 
Dart said:
Yeah, that will end well. You pull a gun on a cop, and the cop will write up a report on how he put a bullet in your head.
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he is in violation of the constitution, he is a criminal and will be dealt with accordingly.
 
Phoenix said:
he is in violation of the constitution, he is a criminal and will be dealt with accordingly.
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My apologies, oh Great Judge, Jury and Executioner. I didn't realize that the laws and statutes did not apply to you.

First off, an officer of the law cannot seize property without due process. Second, nobody is allowed to execute vigilante justice just because someone wronged you. It simply does not work that way.
 
Dart said:
Yeah but ipods are not illegal. Probable cause means there is obvious evidence that a crime may be in progress or has just occurred.
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Probable cause to search the car, that is. Probable cause that a crime is being committed is currently needed to search someone's property. If a law like this were to be passed, police officers could enter (and therefore search) cars just because a valuable object is in the open. I'm agreeing with you in that that is terrible.

This "I'm gonna take this to teach you a lesson" thought is crazy. Police cannot do this.
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I think you misunderstood. I'm agreeing with you wholeheartedly. I'm saying such a law would completely crush the fourth amendment by allowing police to easily justify unwarranted searches and therefore should never be passed.
 
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