Speaking of animal abuse...When any of you were young did you hurt an animal and then feel really bad about it later on in life? I remember I was messing around with a BB gun shooting "towards" these little birds on a telephone wire. I didn't mean to hurt them, but I accidentally hit one and it died. I still get sad if I think about that, and it was like 15 years ago :lol
Seal Clubbing
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FF7 master
Sephiroth's homeboy
Yeah im pretty sure everyone agrees that things like genocide and Seal clubbing are wrong, but how many people will do something about it rather than writing long paragraphs about how bad it is?
Sure i think is very very wrong, but do i care so much about it that im gonna do something about it? no, it may be sad to admit. But its generally how people are, too lazy to do anything about it.
Sure i think is very very wrong, but do i care so much about it that im gonna do something about it? no, it may be sad to admit. But its generally how people are, too lazy to do anything about it.
creepindeth04
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Dark-Abyss said:
I would have to disagree. Sometimes being extreme causes the others to do it even more just to spite those extremists. Although I admire that you care, it's always better to think before you act and to make sure that your message is properly conveyed. Not saying that an angry letter is going to do it, as I agree with you it won't do much, but I'm sure there are better ways to go about it.
FF7 master said:
It's not just laziness that is the reason. It's that there are also other atrocities in the world that are going on right now that are just as bad as seal clubbing, so people aren't always aware or they have other things in their life that are just as important.
stealth toilet
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x2 said:
Yeah, I remember a few years back when my friend and I went out to hunt gophers. I was more or less just messing around shooting fenceposts and stuff, I tried to shoot a couple gophers but my aim was usually off. My friend managed to hit one. It wasn't a fatal shot, but it wounded it, and so my friend walked up to it and shot it again. I remember feeling almost sick and then just wanting to go home. Even now when I think back on it I wish I had said no when my friend invited me out to that excursion.
MR.KAZ said:
We're not the only species to use tools and our environment to our advantage. It's not "unfair" when a human uses his or her brain to outwit an animal. Just because we're good at hunting doesn't mean we should feel guilty because of it.
I also wouldn't refer to any place as "their (by which I assume you mean "an animal's") truf." In the animal kingdom there are no grounds that are taboo to some animals and not to others. Animals survive where they can, and humans are no different. Once again, just because human beings are better at securing the ideal survival spots (near rivers, for example) doesn't mean we should feel guilty.
A few weeks ago, I hit a deer with my wife's van. And although I felt a bit bad in killing it, I didn't feel overwhelmed. Things happen.
I used to kill rabbits for a next door neighbor because they would get into her garden. I didn't feel bad because I could have killed a million and wouldn't have put a dent in the population. There's a thin line between killing for pest control, killing for food and killing for sport.
I have a friend who hunts deer for sport. And although his primary motive is to kill the "perfect" buck, he does send the carcass first to a meat packer, and then it goes to the taxidermist. One of the few times in my opinion that the ends justify the means.
One form of killing that I absolutely condone is killing for food. And no PETA-crazed ecoterrorist can convince me otherwise. If I am told I can't eat meat, then no other carnivorous animal can have that right.
I used to kill rabbits for a next door neighbor because they would get into her garden. I didn't feel bad because I could have killed a million and wouldn't have put a dent in the population. There's a thin line between killing for pest control, killing for food and killing for sport.
I have a friend who hunts deer for sport. And although his primary motive is to kill the "perfect" buck, he does send the carcass first to a meat packer, and then it goes to the taxidermist. One of the few times in my opinion that the ends justify the means.
One form of killing that I absolutely condone is killing for food. And no PETA-crazed ecoterrorist can convince me otherwise. If I am told I can't eat meat, then no other carnivorous animal can have that right.
Dart said:
So I suppose I could extend the same principal to humans, I suppose. *grabs AK-47/nades* Don't worry, there's so many of us that it won't even put a dent in our population. :
Dart said:
I don't think well of killing an animal in that situation either, tbh. He isn't hunting because he really needs food. He is simply doing it for the sport (unless I misinterpreted your post), and the food he gets out of it is just a little added bonus.
Dart said:
I can agree with you there. Killing for the purpose of survival is perfectly natural. Plus, what exactly makes killing an animal for food so much worse than killing a plant?
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MR.KAZ
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stealth toilet said:
Cavemen used what they had around and risked their lives to eat.Pulling the trigger on a rifle from a huge distance away requires no guts at all,it hardly matters these days anyway,we don't hunt for our personal food we pay others to do it for us whenever go to the grocery store and buy it.
Dark-Abyss
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http://www.politics.co.uk/press-releases/outrage-at-us-marine-tossing-puppy-its-death-in-iraq-$1209795.htm (You have to highlight the hole link because the end doesn't seem to be working.)
I...i...i don't believe what I'm reading...how could some one do this...****** HOPE HE GETS BEHEADED OR SHOT
...he will disserve it.
The only reason I'm posting the video is so people can see who did this so if you see him on the streets you don't treat him with any respect what so ever and you punch him multiple times in the jaw and gut .
I'm lucky I'm good at holding my anger in other wise you would have multiple pages of swearing and me saying i want to kill this man .
I...i...i don't believe what I'm reading...how could some one do this...****** HOPE HE GETS BEHEADED OR SHOT
...he will disserve it.The only reason I'm posting the video is so people can see who did this so if you see him on the streets you don't treat him with any respect what so ever and you punch him multiple times in the jaw and gut
.I'm lucky I'm good at holding my anger in other wise you would have multiple pages of swearing and me saying i want to kill this man
.Nah, it's pretty plain. I guess I feel the way I do is the Raleigh area has a major deer population issue due to a lack of a natural predator (and some say habitat too, but I digress). So it's hunt and kill a deer before that deer likely jumps into a busy intersection and becomes a causalty.
Nah. I'm sorry, but if this guy did something like what you said, I don't feel like I should submit to a mob mentality. Is it wrong to kill dogs in this manner? Yes. But two wrongs don't make a right.
Absolutely. But I have one question for you Strubes. If that cow was a Michigan cow, would you care more? If it was from Ohio, would you care even less?
FF7 master
Sephiroth's homeboy
Dark-Abyss said:http://www.politics.co.uk/press-releases/outrage-at-us-marine-tossing-puppy-its-death-in-iraq-$1209795.htm (You have to highlight the hole link because the end doesn't seem to be working.)
I...i...i don't believe what I'm reading...how could some one do this...****** HOPE HE GETS BEHEADED OR SHOT
The only reason I'm posting the video is so people can see who did this so if you see him on the streets you don't treat him with any respect what so ever and you punch him multiple times in the jaw and gut
I'm lucky I'm good at holding my anger in other wise you would have multiple pages of swearing and me saying i want to kill this man
It's fake
Dark-Abyss
Left 4 Dead Rulez!!!! <3 AnnaSophia Robb <3
FF7 master said:
As much as i would love to believe that i have to ask how do you know?
aleeock157
Ninja Kitteh
o__O Fat cat. :lol
M.C. Koopa
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I think if you kill for food, and also end up using the fur, and what ever else, then that's the way its meant to be
and let me say that I HATE the PETA people, but i will stand shoulder to shoulder w/ them on stuff like this, dog fighting, or rooster fighting.
and let me say that I HATE the PETA people, but i will stand shoulder to shoulder w/ them on stuff like this, dog fighting, or rooster fighting.
stealth toilet said:
There is definitely a double-standard that is contingent on people's emotions. In Asia, cows are sacred and dogs are food.