This is Messed up

There are many crazy people today... there really are.  Not saying there were never crazy people we just hear about them more (for those who like to argue statements).  BUT I think there are more crazy people today than before.

This is messed up.

BV :hat
 
Bluevoodu said:
There are many crazy people today... there really are.  Not saying there were never crazy people we just hear about them more (for those who like to argue statements).  BUT I think there are more crazy people today than before.

This is messed up.

BV :hat
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Coming from someone who works in a psych ward (me), there ARE more crazy people because there are more people in general.

There are far more "crazy people" out there than most of you realize. At least at work I know that the patients are known to be crazy. It's disturbing though when I run into a person on the street or in a store who had been a patient of mine weeks or days beforehand. Not to mention the people that I pass by whose behaviors are that of someone who is mentally ill...

The world is a scary place. Ignorance is truly bliss.
 
whats really messed up is that this happened a couple days after a women hadd her throat slit and her 7 day old baby kidnapped here but luckily the mother survived and they found the baby alive
 
Grindspine said:
Coming from someone who works in a psych ward (me), there ARE more crazy people because there are more people in general.

There are far more "crazy people" out there than most of you realize.  At least at work I know that the patients are known to be crazy.  It's disturbing though when I run into a person on the street or in a store who had been a patient of mine weeks or days beforehand.  Not to mention the people that I pass by whose behaviors are that of someone who is mentally ill...

The world is a scary place.  Ignorance is truly bliss.
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I agree... and yes, ignorance is bliss. Sometimes realization can SUCK.

I had a discussion with someone on this (hence my comment above for people who like to argue statements). They said that there is just more realization of the problems... while yes, that might be true... I seriously think there are more screwed up people out there now... not just because of a population increase... BUT I think percentage of the population wise.

IE say there are 10% of 2 million ealier versus 12% of 3 million now. There are not only more people, but the percentage of the population increased as well.

Personally... THIS IS JUST MY OPINION... I think it's messed up families and all. While this might not true across the board... something has to be accounting for messed up people. You take away stability in an already unstable world of a kid (yes, families are about the only stable things kids have)... you can almost guarantee mental problems of some sort.

†B†V† :hat
 
Bluevoodu said:
IE  say there are 10% of 2 million ealier versus 12% of 3 million now.  There are not only more people, but the percentage of the population increased as well.

Personally...  THIS IS JUST MY OPINION... I think it's messed up families and all.  While this might not true across the board... something has to be accounting for messed up people.  You take away stability in an already unstable world of a kid (yes, families are about the only stable things kids have)... you can almost guarantee mental problems of some sort.
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I don't have time to look up statistics tonight, but assumptions like that are dangerous. Yes, environment is a factor, but so are certain genetic precursors to mental illness.

*shrug*

Either way, yeah, too many crazy people... *off to go work with some tonight*
 
Grindspine said:
I don't have time to look up statistics tonight, but assumptions like that are dangerous.  Yes, environment is a factor, but so are certain genetic precursors to mental illness.

*shrug*

Either way, yeah, too many crazy people...  *off to go work with some tonight*
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Yes.. it is dangerous :)  BUT... a hypothesis starts somewhere.  :D
I guess that is what I tried to infer with the my wording "think."    I have no way to test it though... I don't know if you could ever test that unless there was A LOT of research done on millions.. but I could be wrong.

BV :hat
 
I'm a believer in B.F. Skinner's operant condiitioning theory, so I believe that environment has like 90-95 % to do with whats in your head. Just my opinion...
 
mastermario said:
Probably depends on how you want to define 'crazy'.  People in a psych ward? People that are unstable?  Who knows......
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*has a degree in psychology and works in an acute care facility*

I'll just give you a run down of different types of crazy...

Psychotic disorders - having hallucinations or delusions, altered thought processes
Mood disorders: Manic - tangential, pressured with or without psychosis, Depressive - sad affect, hopeless, helpless, suicidal ideation, Bipolar - alternating extremes of mania and depression
Delirium - state of confusion and disorientation, can be caused by Alzheimer's, alcohol detoxification, fever, etc...

Borderline - instability of interpersonal relationships, poor self image, self harm tendencies
Antisocial - disregard for rights of others, history of harming people or animals with no remorse
Paranoid - delusions that others have alternate motives against them

Take your pick.  Those are common axis I and axis II (personality) disorders.  Those are good starting points to define "crazy".

Merriam Webster (www.m-w.com) defines crazy as "insane" and insane as "mentally disordered".

The above examples are commonly diagnosed disorders in the DSM-IV-TR (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual).

If you want to read more, much of the DSM-IV can be found on the behave.net clinical capsule...

http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/dsm4TRclassification.htm

How's that for defining "crazy"?  ::D

Auron234 said:
I'm a believer in B.F. Skinner's operant conditioning theory, so I believe that environment has like 90-95 % to do with whats in your head. Just my opinion...
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Skinner had great ideas on conditioning, but, if you look at Alzheimer's, delirium, alcohol detox, substance induced mood and/or psychotic disorders, schizophrenia, etc...  All have an ORGANIC component.

If you want to get into the nature vs. nurture debate, the evidence that I've seen (between biological AND societal factors) points to both having a very large impact.  Neither one is 90-95%.  Look for a closer to even combination of the two.  I have also seen a diathesis-stress model argued the premise of which is that precursors set a range of possibilities while stressors only affect the outcome within a range...
 
Yup, thats a good start of defining 'crazy'. My question is......aren't most people go a little 'crazy' at one time or another? I know I can be a little crazy if I get upset or something, but does that mean I would be 'crazy'?

This topic turned kind of interesting....... :lol
 
I've been known to an occasional psychotic burst of murderous rage...

Maybe his definition of crazy means permenant or long term, not just outbursts.
 
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