Time Magazine Halo 3 Article...

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1657825-1,00.html

I don't have much of any problems with the parts of the article discussing the basics of Halo 3. There's nothing really new, but I can't believe how this guy keeps talking about gamers, and the industry as a whole. Now, clearly, he is just some stupid old guy who probably hasn't picked up a video game controller since Pong, so you may ask why I care about this. It's because this is clearly a symptom of a massive misunderstanding of hardcore gamers among the general public.

The first, and most crucial thing that must be addressed here is this guy's constant references to gamers as a bunch of anti-social nerds, who are afraid of sunlight. After all these years, after all of this growth, moving closer and closer to a mainstream market, I can't believe this ridiculous stereotype is still around. We are people, who have lives, who have friends, and often live entirely normal lives. The only difference truly separating us from everyone else, is that hardcore gamers enjoy art in a different form.

This leads me to what must addressed next, this ridiculous notion that games have crappy stories. In this article, the writer makes Halo look like a god, among video games, simply because he thinks it has a half-way decent story. Its been over 30 years since the birth of gaming, and things have changed greatly, something that seems to have been ignored by the masses. No longer, are we playing games with the bare bones story of arcade games, like Donkey Kong. Many have grown into rich complex epics, comparable to the level of movies, or books. Just look a mere month back to the release of Bioshock. Its story is laced heavily with symbolism, about the flaws of the Randian utopia, combined with compelling characters and setting. It is a story worthy of recognition, yet none is received because of people like this, who can't look at games for what they really are.

The days of playing Pacman in the arcade are long gone. They have transcended simple kids toys, and have truly grown to be something more. They can take us anywhere from the depths of fear and despair, to the heights of triumph, and joy, and its time the masses recognized it . They still misunderstand gaming as simple stupid games that are only there as a fun diversion, and as long as this is so, games will be looked down up as nothing but another mindless hobby rather than the art form they've finally evolved into.

Sorry for the long post, that article just really pissed me off...rant over.
 
This leads me to what must addressed next, this ridiculous notion that games have crappy stories. In this article, the writer makes Halo look like a god, among video games, simply because he thinks it has a half-way decent story. Its been over 30 years since the birth of gaming, and things have changed greatly, something that seems to have been ignored by the masses. No longer, are we playing games with the bare bones story of arcade games, like Donkey Kong. Many have grown into rich complex epics, comparable to the level of movies, or books. Just look a mere month back to the release of Bioshock. Its story is laced heavily with symbolism, about the flaws of the Randian utopia, combined with compelling characters and setting. It is a story worthy of recognition, yet none is received because of people like this, who can't look at games for what they really are.

Well, to some...Halo is a god. September 25th is pretty much Halo 3 day to alot of people. :lol

Also, Bioshock received very high praise and recognition.

The first, and most crucial thing that must be addressed here is this guy's constant references to gamers as a bunch of anti-social nerds, who are afraid of sunlight. After all these years, after all of this growth, moving closer and closer to a mainstream market, I can't believe this ridiculous stereotype is still around. We are people, who have lives, who have friends, and often live entirely normal lives. The only difference truly separating us from everyone else, is that hardcore gamers enjoy art in a different form.

To this, I agree completely. Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
Homicidal Cherry53 said:
I don't have much of any problems with the parts of the article discussing the basics of Halo 3. There's nothing really new, but I can't believe how this guy keeps talking about gamers, and the industry as a whole. Now, clearly, he is just some stupid old guy who probably hasn't picked up a video game controller since Pong, so you may ask why I care about this. It's because this is clearly a symptom of a massive misunderstanding of hardcore gamers among the general public.

I dont think you read the article clearly... he said "The cliche about gamers is that they're antisocial, if not sociopathic, but Bungie is very much a community"

It wasnt negative towards gamers at all... he was just explaining the gist of Halo to non-gamers

read it again
 
Auron234 said:
I dont think you read the article clearly... he said "The cliche about gamers is that they're antisocial, if not sociopathic, but Bungie is very much a community"

It wasnt negative towards gamers at all... he was just explaining the gist of Halo to non-gamers
"There is an invisible subculture in America. Those who belong to it love it with a lonely, alienated, unironic passion."

"...for Halo to break out of the ghetto"

"...They're happy in their invisible geek ghetto."

"It may be time for the Master Chief to come in from the cold and join the party, with the popular kids."

Every one of those quotes points to the fact that he perceives gamers, just like the stereotype he described.

Strubes said:
Well, to some...Halo is a god. September 25th is pretty much Halo 3 day to alot of people. :lol
I'm not arguing that it shouldn't be considered a god. I'm saying the fact that he glorifies Halo, simply because he thinks it has a decent story, and this shows that he still thinks games have storylines that are utter crap, and this is simply untrue. I'm not telling you that Halo shouldn't be looked upon as godly (although I don't think so...). I was trying to show that this guy has an utter misconception of what games have become.
Strubes said:
Also, Bioshock received very high praise and recognition.
Only among hardcore gamers, and reviewers did it receive a lot of praise. It went completely ignored among anyone else for the most part, despite it having one of the best stories I've seen in a while, and equally great gameplay.
 
Homicidal Cherry53 said:
"There is an invisible subculture in America. Those who belong to it love it with a lonely, alienated, unironic passion."

"...for Halo to break out of the ghetto"

"...They're happy in their invisible geek ghetto."

"It may be time for the Master Chief to come in from the cold and join the party, with the popular kids."

quote 1 - journalists way of saying to get to the masses

quote 2 - talking about Bungie, which they perceive themselves to be

quote 3 - saying that Halo may soon be a huge marketable franchise, outside of videogames. movies etc.
 
Uh, you missed a quote in there...

And regardless of what the sentences are specifically talking about, the way they are written reflect his feelings on gaming.
 
yeah

i got this issue in the mail, and he says nothing about nerds. he actually talks about gaming as a legit hobby

and says nothing about the people who do it

honestly, he doesnt.
 
Homicidal Cherry53 said:
Uh, you missed a quote in there...

And regardless of what the sentences are specifically talking about, the way they are written reflect his feelings on gaming.

or maybe you should work on your reading comprehension
 
Auron234 said:
or maybe you should work on your reading comprehension
You seem to be in a great mood. ::)

My reading comprehension's fine...more than I can say for you, considering you said "There is an invisible subculture in America. Those who belong to it love it with a lonely, alienated, unironic passion," "journalist way of saying to get to the masses"
 
i didnt see the first one... that went for the last three. Hines also read the article and said it was fine. The first quote is addressing how there are hardcores that love it with a passion and do nothing else. There are people out there like that, he didnt say ALL GAMERS. yur making a big deal out of nothing
 
i can see how the article can be misinterpreted but i dont think the author intended to offend anyone. I liked it and think he approached it quite nicely
 
the author embraces gaming as a hobby and actually praises halo for its diverse story, and how its so good that it could be a movie. he acts as hes interested in gaming culture as a whole, and said not a negative word towards it.

cherry, im sorry, but your completely wrong on this.
 
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