What should be in a video game store?

Homicidal Cherry53 said:
Again, I don't get how the produce expert doesn't have the same "dimes worth of experience". Is there something inherently different about the produce expert's life that makes said experience inaccessible to him?
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The produce expert only has the knowledge that is contained within what he has learned from his Produce guides hanging up in the office, his PhD in Produce Studies, and conversations hes had with ordering the produce and checking the mass supply. The cashier has knowledge on what people have been buying (such as the quality and looks of the tomato as well as whether or not people have been bringing them back).

Thus the person who just gauges what people has got (the uninformed) has more grounds to base his dimes worth of experience and relate to the dozens of consumers in the marketplace. The Produce expert would only appeal to maybe direct farmers and people actually in the field (the informed).

Ultimately the cashier appeals to more. Simple concept to grasp, really.

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fhqwhgads said:
I'm not even going to bother with the rest of your garbage, because it's all completely backwards and awful, downright stupid and moronic, and you're pretty much proving yourself wrong every time you spew the same crap out of your mouth.

And don't tell me the uninformed staff is better, because clearly, they are not.

I got it. You go to get a job. What do you have to present? A resume. Are they gonna hire the person with or without a background/bit of knowledge on what they're doing?
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I doubt that "do you play videogames" is a requirement to work at a store that sales videogames. Companies want versatile individuals not single minded video game player....Go to any mass retailer store that sales videogames and attempt to launch into a discussion about videogames. 10 times out of 9 the person there is definitely not in the loop with games and will have to call assistance while taking out the game cartridge in question and read it intensely to answer your question. This is how it should be as the choice to buy and whether or not to like resides in the consumer.
 
Starrynite said:
I doubt that "do you play videogames" is a requirement to work at a store that sales videogames. Companies want versatile individuals not single minded video game player....
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Video game players working at video game stores = bad.

People who know how to work on cars at car repair stores = bad.

People who know how to do basic math at banks = bad.

That's what I found when I dug through your latest pile of crap.
 
The goal for a videogame store is to not have videogamers as the workers. It has been proven that videogamers are a lazy and unsociable breed of people and as usual maintain these high levels of harsh opinion. These are people who hurt the videogame industry and consumers. The people who need to work are those lacking much videogame experience and ones who can ensure a variety of game types are being sold.

As also stated this same idea applies only to a small few and select markets, not as a general rule as has been stated.
 
Starrynite said:
It has been proven that videogamers are a lazy and unsociable breed of people and as usual maintain these high levels of harsh opinion.
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Roflmao. Toke Jopic. Err, account.
 
Im just stating what is fact. The store doesnt need knowledgeable associates as everyone is claiming. It is perhaps time to take back the power of ignoring suggestions and following and purchasing what ones heart tells them, not listening to a biased sales associate. There is plenty of advertising on a boxart that will tell the person if the game is good or not, or even if they would like it or not. Just have self service checkout at Video game stores and this would be most beneficial to the community of those that buy games.
 
Starrynite said:
The produce expert only has the knowledge that is contained within what he has learned from his Produce guides hanging up in the office, his PhD in Produce Studies, and conversations hes had with ordering the produce and checking the mass supply. The cashier has knowledge on what people have been buying (such as the quality and looks of the tomato as well as whether or not people have been bringing them back).
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This is where the produce analogy stops working, as the produce expert, as you said, has no idea what people have been buying, but a game expert working at a game store would know what people were buying just as well as an uninformed store clerk. This means that the informed clerk would have the same information as the uninformed clerk, and more. I don't see how that can possibly be a negative.
Starrynite said:
The goal for a videogame store is to not have videogamers as the workers. It has been proven that videogamers are a lazy and unsociable breed of people and as usual maintain these high levels of harsh opinion.
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I'm sorry, but you have got to be kidding me. Gamers aren't lazy couch potato, Gollum-esq people who live in their parent's basements, are afraid of sunlight and eat nothing but cheetos. We play games. That's it. That's all that separates us from non-gamers. To say otherwise is a prejudice generalization, at best.
Starrynite said:
Im just stating what is fact. The store doesnt need knowledgeable associates as everyone is claiming. It is perhaps time to take back the power of ignoring suggestions and following and purchasing what ones heart tells them, not listening to a biased sales associate. There is plenty of advertising on a boxart that will tell the person if the game is good or not, or even if they would like it or not. Just have self service checkout at Video game stores and this would be most beneficial to the community of those that buy games.
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There are a couple things I just don't get here: How does advertising and boxart tell someone if a game is good or not? Does a pretty picture on the cover make a game good or bad?

Also, all of the opinions out there don't have to be listened to. They are just that, opinions, but exactly what is wrong with having someone's opinion help you make a decision? Would it be a better idea to listen to the "opinions" on the cover which are filled with ulterior motives and gross exaggerations to get you to buy the game than from a game store clerk who played the game, objectively, without ulterior motives? I just don't see why you have so much against a clerk recommending a game they enjoyed to someone. It isn't as though they are being forced to listen.
 
In this new age of information I seriously, and I emphasize seriously, doubt that the Boxart and other description would be so biased as to only speak positive. Looking over all the games I have, they do a fair job at conveying just what the product is an giving ample enough explanation of features and such. I doubt companies developed the box to try to, and may I say it in words already stated "present "opinions" which are filled with ulterior motives and gross exaggerations to get one to buy the game". It isnt like a book in which they just grab any rave review and throw it on the inner flap. Woe to those that dont look at the box before buying their product.

The staff are people who cant be trusted. And you just identified my point, a clerk recommends games that they enjoyed to someone, perfect as was the example of the Produce example and that cashier, they are acting as the cashier, recommending something they themselves have bought. The clerk will just focus on the 20 or so top games of the past week and make an effort to sell them. Am I the only one that sees this dreadful effort at bolstering the sales of the same games to some extreme level completely and dreadfully wrong. These store clerks must be eliminated and traded for ones that are less informed on that which are top hits.

And yes most store clerks force their opinion on people, why else do they ask you to only preorder the MOST popular titles. Once again another pro-point for online purchases, all the information you need, at your finger points, and no bullheaded sharp harsh extremist sales clerk forcing their dark will upon us all to get these same 20 or so games.

Edit: Perhaps I jumped the fun on the prejudice of gamers, please forgive.
 
Starrynite said:
The staff are people who cant be trusted. And you just identified my point, a clerk recommends games that they enjoyed to someone, perfect as was the example of the Produce example and that cashier, they are acting as the cashier, recommending something they themselves have bought. The clerk will just focus on the 20 or so top games of the past week and make an effort to sell them. Am I the only one that sees this dreadful effort at bolstering the sales of the same games to some extreme level completely and dreadfully wrong. These store clerks must be eliminated and traded for ones that are less informed on that which are top hits.

And yes most store clerks force their opinion on people, why else do they ask you to only preorder the MOST popular titles. Once again another pro-point for online purchases, all the information you need, at your finger points, and no bullheaded sharp harsh extremist sales clerk forcing their dark will upon us all to get these same 20 or so games.
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You just contradicted yourself... You say that "a clerk recommends games that they enjoyed to someone...recommending something they themselves have bought." but then say "The clerk will just focus on the 20 or so top games of the past week and make an effort to sell them."
 
It still makes NO sense whatsoever, why would the uninformed clerk recommend games that they've played if they don't play games?
 
I dont see how that doesnt make sense.

A car salesmen recommends cars that he has never drove before. In this case the clerk is either one who has little experience with games. They make their recommendations for games based on either the games for play in the store, through the advertisements they have seen, or either just the ones that have nice looking box arts. They may ave played these games but certainly dont have any beat games on their records.
 
Why do you keep contradicting yourself? :lol I don't know why I'm even bothering...

based on either the games for play in the store, through the advertisements they have seen, or either just the ones that have nice looking box arts.
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You are saying that the uninformed clerks are the ones that:

The clerk will just focus on the 20 or so top games of the past week and make an effort to sell them.
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Because those are the ONLY games that are advertised in any way, shape, or form.
 
No as i have stated there are tons more games that are advertised in stores. THe 20 or so titles are ones that at times have no more advertising up, as said these are like the Top 20 for the highest sells and such. Theyve been out for a while
 
Starrynite, I would not go into a gamestore with an employee who is unknowledgable of a product.

I, myself, have been in Video Game retail for over 10 years now. Basically what you just said, is the complete opposite of what the average american consumer wants.

Those top 20 games, I rest assure you, aren't being played by 3 out of the 5 employees working in each store. Due to the fact, the District Managers are informing each of their managers within those district to sell the popular titles and focus on nothing but Upcoming and Used Titles. Since that is their biggest money makers.

If you eliminate that, then you are destroying major profit. How else do you think GameStop has rised to the power it is today?
 
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