Man, the PS3 doesn't get any love...

Strubes said:
Ok, a couple problems.

A. Nintendo isn't missing out because of it's graphics, it's because of it's target audience (younger generation)...you say casual gamers are all ages...ok cool.

B. There's little or no comparing the PS3 or 360 to the Wii in any regard. You learn to appreciate surround sound and HDTV once you own one. :)
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Thank you Strubes someone who agrees with me.

If u want a quick fix for HDTV go out and buy a VGA adapter and there u go HD on ur computer problem solved and under $30
 
Strubes said:
Ok, a couple problems.

A. Nintendo isn't missing out because of it's graphics, it's because of it's target audience (younger generation)...you say casual gamers are all ages...ok cool.

B. There's little or no comparing the PS3 or 360 to the Wii in any regard. You learn to appreciate surround sound and HDTV once you own one. :)
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Nooo, last generation it wasn't missing out because of its graphics. This generation, it pretty much is. All those shared games between the other two couldn't be handled on the Wii, and by the time they dumb it down, they couldn't turn a profit. Sure, I can understand where you're coming from, because even though the WIi is leading in sales, not all would buy GRAWII. But you(and developers, if you're right) seem to just assume that no one would buy any of it. Kinda the same thing went down with the GCN. Developers lost money because of poor sales on it, but they were part of the problem(not having all those games on the GCN hurt the sales). So many developers have turned to the Wii now, though, and it's really starting to get a good library in the next year or so. The good side is that the Wii is going to end up with so many games the others don't. Fatal Frame, Umbrella Chronicles, Ghost Squad, Red Steel 2(if they fix that damn aim craziness), all that stuff. Looking past the fact that there's still minigame games coming out(how many games does it take to learn what the Wiimote can do?), there's some really good stuff. Oh, yes, and I wasn't comparing the Wii to the PS3 or 360 at all up there, I was stating in general.
 
But none of those games for the Wii appeal to me, and that's the way it is. Nintneod's not putting any effort in appealing to me, and PS3's not putting any effort into appealing with you. That's just the way it is.
 
What developers are doing now are getting a piece of the Wiicake.

Its the new flare and that flare is money. It takes two months to make a wiigame and they just ship it out. Not worrying about if its good or not. "Who cares if its good, its on the Wii they'll buy it" "Their not "real" gamers they wont care if its good or not as long as they get that moment of satisfaction", And as for more minigames come on Nintendo stop it with the minigames and actually make games that are actually good like the old Zeldas, Marios, and release SSBB.

Its not next gen its just a toy.

(Here comes the hate)
 
For the too manyth time, I'll point out the quote saying that several developers have apologized not putting more effort into their Wii launch games, because now it's a huge gaming boom, and now, if they make a good game on it, the real gamers tell their friends, and the casuals get into real games slowly, eventually adding up to more and more profit.
 
Fr0dus Maximus said:
What developers are doing now are getting a piece of the Wiicake.

Its the new flare and that flare is money. It takes two months to make a wiigame and they just ship it out. Not worrying about if its good or not. "Who cares if its good, its on the Wii they'll buy it" And as for more minigames come on Nintendo stop it with the minigames and actually make games that are actually good like the old Zeldas, Marios, and release SSBB.

Its not next gen its just a toy.

(Here comes the hate)
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I'm not gonna lie. I agree completely. It's the new flare, and the reason why developers are apologizing now, is only so they can get their hands on money as well.
 
Strubes said:
I'm not gonna lie. I agree completely. It's the new flare, and the reason why developers are apologizing now, is only so they can get their hands on money as well.
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There are very few that actually do and I thank you. Too many are blinded by the new thing.
 
Fr0dus Maximus said:
Oh really? 4 year olds and grandpas have real gamers that they talk to on a daily basis?
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the real gamers tell their friends, and the casuals get into real games slowly
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It states, the standard gamers who bought the Wii tell their standard gaming friends, more Wii sales, more game sales. The casual gamer slowly branches off into these more standard games, just because they have the machine. Another gamer added, more sales. It's actually a pretty smart move. Of course, for this to work, they have to actually try on the games. Just because it's popular and easy to develop for doesn't mean its standard games shouldn't be taken seriously.
 
fhq ur making it sound like a cult.

And I understand the fundamentals of business its simple. All im saying is that its only selling now cuz its the new flare and that the flare will die down and where will the sales be? Hopefully on some actual games.

While on the subject how can the release of Halo 3 be the biggest release in entertainment when it costs at least $60 and movie tickets cost around $8?
 
And can you prove it's only selling because it's the new flare, or is it the new flare to keep saying that over and over? It sells because it's cheap and easy. Cheap and easy to play, cheap and easy to make for. Parents go to the store, see it as cheaper than the rest and get it. Hold on while I get a list of upcoming Wii games. Alright, I can't find crap from Google(it's all pre E3 stuff), so you'll just hafta wait until I get back tomorrow night and look in NP. Or you can yourself and post it up.
 
Yea I dont see how people can call it the "new flare" when it's still selling like crazy
 
Hm. "New flare."

Gamer 1: "Hey, did you get a Wii yet?'

Gamer 2: "Yeah, and it's a blast to play!"

The Wii is nowhere near a "new flare." I'm sorry, but I find it plain idiocy to chaulk up the Wii as a simple gimmock. Nintendo executed on their plan to make a simple, affordable gaming machine that brings the entertainment for entire families. They also executed in making it appealing to otherwise non-gamers. Can Sony do that? Maybe. They made an effort with the Playstation. When the PS2 came out they attempted a middle ground and ended up with one of the largest game libraries imaginable.

Sadly, those who think the Wii sucks or the PS3 sucks because of no games or bad games are the ones who are blinded because every single console ever produced has suffered in some way when it came to new games during launch. but please, tell me I am wrong while backing it up with shady or nonexistant proof.

Oh, and the above dialoge was a piece of a conversation with a coworker of mine. He was a hardcore 80s gamer. Lost interest and one day on a whim purchased a Wii.
 
Thank you! Apparently, just because something is cheap and anyone can play it, it becomes a gimmick.
 
Dart said:
Hm. "New flare."

Gamer 1: "Hey, did you get a Wii yet?'

Gamer 2: "Yeah, and it's a blast to play!"

The Wii is nowhere near a "new flare." I'm sorry, but I find it plain idiocy to chaulk up the Wii as a simple gimmock. Nintendo executed on their plan to make a simple, affordable gaming machine that brings the entertainment for entire families. They also executed in making it appealing to otherwise non-gamers. Can Sony do that? Maybe. They made an effort with the Playstation. When the PS2 came out they attempted a middle ground and ended up with one of the largest game libraries imaginable.

Sadly, those who think the Wii sucks or the PS3 sucks because of no games or bad games are the ones who are blinded because every single console ever produced has suffered in some way when it came to new games during launch. but please, tell me I am wrong while backing it up with shady or nonexistant proof.

Oh, and the above dialoge was a piece of a conversation with a coworker of mine. He was a hardcore 80s gamer. Lost interest and one day on a whim purchased a Wii.
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Sorry, Dart but it's an opinion. You're going to have to deal with it. Let me point out a couple things to you and fhq. I used to have a Wii. Was it fun? Yes. It was a blast for about a month. That's when the gimmick of a wand-controller wore off. That's right, the Wii-mote was a gimmick to me. TO ME. I have one other friend who returned his Wii. He wanted something more.

It is indeed the new flare. Why? Because it was something new that nobody has seen yet, so people automatically gobbled it up.

New = new system
Flare = selling like crazy

It's really not that hard to fathom.
 
Other things that were considered "trendy" or "new flares":

The automobile.
The telephone.
The telegraph.
The aeroplane.
The television.
The X-ray.
The microwave.
The bycicle.
The hot air balloon.
Need I go on??

My point is labeling something as "trendy" or a "new flare" is meaningless. It doesn't prove anything. The Wii (or Ps3, or even the 360) simply cannot suffer because one thinks it's simply a trend. And unfortunately, based on the examples above, it's fact.

One can tack on "opinion" on anything. But a low price cannot hurt the Wii. New technologies with the controllers cannot hurt the Wii (rumble, anyone?). Sorry Strubes, but we're on different sides on this one. :-\
 
Dart said:
Other things that were considered "trendy" or "new flares":

The automobile.
The telephone.
The telegraph.
The aeroplane.
The television.
The X-ray.
The microwave.
The bycicle.
The hot air balloon.
Need I go on??

My point is labeling something as "trendy" or a "new flare" is meaningless. It doesn't prove anything. The Wii (or Ps3, or even the 360) simply cannot suffer because one thinks it's simply a trend. And unfortunately, based on the examples above, it's fact.

One can tack on "opinion" on anything. But a low price cannot hurt the Wii. New technologies with the controllers cannot hurt the Wii (rumble, anyone?). Sorry Strubes, but we're on different sides on this one. :-\
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Let's see. All those listed above, changed lives. I don't see how those were considered new flares in the video game industry. It's not really a fact because of that. What did the automobile have to compete with? What did the telephone have to compete with? People didn't have a choice in the matter, so they had to go with the new flare. :lol

I'm kind of confused how you think I think the new technology will hurt the Wii. Mind helping me out here? Maybe because I didn't like the new technology? Nah. I like motion control. I just prefer a real controller, like the SIXAXIS one to get it done. I stated that people are buying it because it's the new, different thing to do. That, and a bunch of whiny kids want one so their parents melt at their commands. I'm getting another Wii in a week. On this site though, it's become so easy to defend Nintendo or make it look like it's god's gift to man, rather than defending any other console. That's ok that we're on different sides though. I'm just someone who OWNS a PS3, defending the PS3.
 
You arent defending the ps3... WE are defending the Wii from your ignorant comments. You may not like the Wii... but a couple million people do... just like you say when people diss halo. "Well I got 5 million people that agree with me" Well we got a lot more than that
 
Auron234 said:
You arent defending the ps3... WE are defending the Wii from your ignorant comments. You may not like the Wii... but a couple million people do... just like you say when people diss halo. "Well I got 5 million people that agree with me" Well we got a lot more than that
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Once again, you're on a whole other level. I have no idea what you're talking about. I didn't like the Wii. I'm getting a new one however to give it a chance. The best defense is a good offense my friend. Go back, read the posts, gain some knowledge, then come back.
 
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