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fhqwhgads
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Lol. You think a company fails because they want to perfect their biggest game?Strubes said:
Official Super Smash Bros. Brawl Topic
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blacklemons
The Freeman
i agree with strubes, nintendo needs to get their act together
i personally am really glad with this news
means i can buy a game now and then brawl later
i personally am really glad with this news
means i can buy a game now and then brawl later
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fhqwhgads
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Still ain't seeing it. Is it because they've got the best selling console or because they want to refine Smash Bros. so it can live up to expectations?Hinesmdc said:
KirbyRockz
Moderator
Mai, it's still annoying though. Second delay... I had already made plans... darnit.
On the bright side, Japan wasn't delayed by much so we'll at least have info on the game.
On the bright side, Japan wasn't delayed by much so we'll at least have info on the game.
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fhqwhgads
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Of course it's annoying, but if I'm spending $50 on it, I want it to be the best game Sakurai can make it.kirbyrockz said:
Mai Valentine
Moderator
fhqwhgads said:
Yeah, pretty much.
A delayed game eventually comes out, but a bad game is bad forever.
However, if the rumors that Nintendo pushed it back so they could ramp up Wii production in order to have enough Wiis are true, then yes, they really should get their act together, because more Wii production should have happened long ago.
KirbyRockz
Moderator
My point is that it's not wrong to be disappointed. We were all expecting the game to be 100% completed by release date, and now we have to wait longer again. I'm not arguing that a delay wasn't necessary; hey, if it must be done, then it must be done. But I am still disappointed.
Mai Valentine
Moderator
kirbyrockz said:
Yeah I get that, but I don't think you can equate a delay of one game to total failure of an entire company. That's all.
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fhqwhgads
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They just put out a target date, and when they saw they couldn't do all of what they wanted to, they delayed it. Face it, it could have been out in December, but they would have had to cut most of the extra stuff they put in. CDs? Out. Minigame for trophies? Out. Several characters? Out. Some stages? Out. Challenge Screen? Out. Stickers? Out.kirbyrockz said:
And to help out, here comes our good friends Ocarina of Time and Kirby. Kirby's first game had a completely different layout and four thousand preorders. After Miyamoto helped them to switch some things around and delay it, it got up to fifty thousand preorders. Then comes Ocarina of Time. Delayed for two years, best game for eleven years running.
LIVEandLETdie
Knux. Fan
It stinks that Brawl got delayed, but there's still hope for Knuckles!! Come on sonics in there, why not Tails or Knuckles?
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fhqwhgads
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Because Sonic was enough of a push and Sakurai's quite adamant about not many third party characters. And Tails is an AT.LIVEandLETdie said:
Re: Shiek is in Brawl
Please tell me that was you trying to make a joke. Yellow Alloy looks absolutly nothing like the main character from Animal Corssing. Yellow Alloy is taller, thinner, and the horns come from the sides of his head, not the top. Ever played Meteos? Yellow Alloy looks a lot more like this:
They're both from the Mother series. So they obviously share PK attacks. You have no more proof as to why Ness can't be in then I do as to why he can.
And Lucas joined the scene afterwards. So who's the clone of who?
Quoted straight from the video:
UltraNeko:Â Which Smash Brothers BRAWL character would you like to beat up the most?
Hayter:Â I think it'd be really fun to wail on Pikachu, or JIGGLYPUFF...
Please tell me that was you trying to make a joke. Yellow Alloy looks absolutly nothing like the main character from Animal Corssing. Yellow Alloy is taller, thinner, and the horns come from the sides of his head, not the top. Ever played Meteos? Yellow Alloy looks a lot more like this:
They're both from the Mother series. So they obviously share PK attacks. You have no more proof as to why Ness can't be in then I do as to why he can.
And Lucas joined the scene afterwards. So who's the clone of who?
Quoted straight from the video:
UltraNeko:Â Which Smash Brothers BRAWL character would you like to beat up the most?
Hayter:Â I think it'd be really fun to wail on Pikachu, or JIGGLYPUFF...
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fhqwhgads
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Re: Shiek is in Brawl
Yup, seen it. But why pull it from that instead of a character with a chance to get in? Alloys/Wire Frames are just literal character frames so they don't have to waste a ton of time programming them.Nova said:Please tell me that was you trying to make a joke. Yellow Alloy looks absolutly nothing like the main character from Animal Corssing. Yellow Alloy is taller, thinner, and the horns come from the sides of his head, not the top. Ever played Meteos? Yellow Alloy looks a lot more like this:
How about Sakurai saying Ness has been in up until now on Lucas' page?
Ah, but who joined the Brawl scene first?
Yeah, but I doubt he's much of a Smash expert, so he could just be going off the whole series, hoping that Jigglypuff does make it in, or something else. A couple years ago, Sakurai said Ice Climbers weren't coming back, but they did.
KirbyRockz
Moderator
Mai Valentine said:Yeah I get that, but I don't think you can equate a delay of one game to total failure of an entire company. That's all.
Oh, I agree with you there. I have nothing against Nintendo, or Sakurai, or anybody about this. I'm just a bit disappointed, is all.
Again, I am not angry about the delay. Delays happen... and most of the time they happen because the developer was not ready to launch the game yet. I totally understand that. I'm not denying the fact that delays happen for a reason, and that reason is to add more functionality and quality into the game. I'm just disappointed there was a delay to begin with, and that the game was not ready yet. That's all.
And the CDs/trophy minigame/characters/stages/challenge screen/stickers may very well have been in Brawl in December anyway... they just were not announced yet on the Dojo.
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fhqwhgads
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Yeah, we all are, but the delay is far from a bad thing that so many people are making it out to be.kirbyrockz said:
Re: Shiek is in Brawl
If Yellow Alloy was supposed to be proof that the "Animal Crosser" was in, wouldn't they just use his/her moves, instead of Mario's? Sticking horns on something doesn't instantly make it so.
How about the fact that the Japanese language works nothing like the English language? It doesn't prove anything.
I was talking about the Smash scene as a whole, not to mention Ness is from the earlier Mother games, whereas Lucas is only from the latest. If you want to talk about Brawl in particular, then sure, but Ness has always been there first.
Unless they completely isolated him from all the other voice actors, I'd say he has a half-decent idea of what's in there.
Well, the first delay was most likely fue to Nintendo not wanting SSBB to contend with Super Mario Galaxy.
This second delay is interesting as to how much it's been delayed. Only a week in Japan (or was it 4 days?), yet 23 days here in the US, and god knows how long for those poor souls in Europe. As someone once said: "They probably spilt coffee all over the English manuals".
If Yellow Alloy was supposed to be proof that the "Animal Crosser" was in, wouldn't they just use his/her moves, instead of Mario's? Sticking horns on something doesn't instantly make it so.
How about the fact that the Japanese language works nothing like the English language? It doesn't prove anything.
I was talking about the Smash scene as a whole, not to mention Ness is from the earlier Mother games, whereas Lucas is only from the latest. If you want to talk about Brawl in particular, then sure, but Ness has always been there first.
Unless they completely isolated him from all the other voice actors, I'd say he has a half-decent idea of what's in there.
Well, the first delay was most likely fue to Nintendo not wanting SSBB to contend with Super Mario Galaxy.
This second delay is interesting as to how much it's been delayed. Only a week in Japan (or was it 4 days?), yet 23 days here in the US, and god knows how long for those poor souls in Europe. As someone once said: "They probably spilt coffee all over the English manuals".
Mai Valentine said:Yeah I get that, but I don't think you can equate a delay of one game to total failure of an entire company. That's all.
fhqwhgads said:
You guys thought I was serious about Nintendo failing? Like, as a whole company? :lol Seriously, they failed me. Did I really need to point that out? I thought you'd all figure that out on your own.
Mai Valentine
Moderator
Strubes said:
Well, it makes sense now that you explain it that way.