The Wii Controllers

So, what's your take on the new Nintendo Revolution controller?

  • Amazing, Nintendo is going in the, "Revolutionary," and in an exciting direction.

    Votes: 10 41.7%

  • Yuck, I don't know what Nintendo was thinking of... making a one-handed controller!

    Votes: 7 29.2%

  • Well, let's just wait to see if it can deliver.

    Votes: 6 25.0%

  • Undecided...

    Votes: 1 4.2%
  • Total voters
    24
Re: Here it is people the moment we've all been waiting for

SpartanEvolved said:
It will make some games, in particular FPS games, very hard to play. Ever play Perfect Dark for the N64? Absolutely archaic opposed to an Xbox, PS2, or Gamecube controller.
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Nope, cant say I have. Im not an FPS gamer, so I guess im out of the loop on that one. The only problem I have with this controller right now is that how will it be able to play old SNES and N64 games.
 
Re: Here it is people the moment we've all been waiting for

This is for BV. This is how you can have the controller the "old-fashioned" way.

How will the controllers be bundled with the hardware?

What we call the 'freehand' controller - the basic controller that looks like a remote - and the 'nunchaku-style' controller will be packaged with the hardware and is really an amazing combination.

The third type of controller will be the 'classic-style' expansion controller, which Mr Iwata spoke about in his speech - but there was no visual to go with it because we haven't got the design finalised - we haven't decided how we'll market it.

Can you explain a bit about the classic controller?

It's effectively a shell like a standard controller with a hole in it and you slot in the freehand controller. So for games that are well suited for a traditional style controller, well, there you are.

The classic controller is important for us for our virtual console games. When I'm playing my favourite game - the N64 version of Goldeneye - it's built for that kind of controller.
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The rest of the article:
http://www.gamesradar.com/news/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=37344&subsectionid=2504
 
Re: Here it is people the moment we've all been waiting for

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The 1st thought that comes to my mind is:  ummmm.... no.

I'll see if this grows on me... but right now.... I think this sucks.
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If I wanted to hold a tv remote I would sit in front of the tv all day, not play video games.
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I completely agree with the aforementioned quotes. When I saw that this was Nintendo's "ace in the hole" I laughed, and laughed, and laughed. IF they think it is going to revolutionize the market, they are wrong. If they think it will bring new customers to Nintendo, they are wrong. If they think it will wow anybody (positively), they are wrong.

Now if they would have said that this controller would alienate third party companies and current Nintendo fans, they'd be right. No wonder so many companies are saying they'll only port games to the PS3 and Xbox 360, because porting any kind of sports, FPS, or racing title would be completely impractical. In fact, I don't know what genres would be practical on this.

As much as I'd love to say "I told you so" I don't even really want to. Although I have been fairly heavily stating that Nintendo was going to drop the ball on this, deep down I kind of hoped that they'd make me eat my words, or at the very least share the fate of the Dreamcast (a failure, but only because it was ahead of its time). But after seeing this, I don't possibly see how anyone can take them seriously as a game developer. Who cares about Super Smash Brothers Online if you have to control Link with a TV remote?

I'll still holf my breath to see what kind of games Nintendo can come up with for this. I find it hard to criticise Nintendo for this when I feel more pity and sympathy than anything else. It appears the reign of Nintendo in the videogame industry is over, possibly forever.
 
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stealth toilet said:
I completely agree with the aforementioned quotes. When I saw that this was Nintendo's "ace in the hole" I laughed, and laughed, and laughed. IF they think it is going to revolutionize the market, they are wrong. If they think it will bring new customers to Nintendo, they are wrong. If they think it will wow anybody (positively), they are wrong.

Now if they would have said that this controller would alienate third party companies and current Nintendo fans, they'd be right. No wonder so many companies are saying they'll only port games to the PS3 and Xbox 360, because porting any kind of sports, FPS, or racing title would be completely impractical. In fact, I don't know what genres would be practical on this.

As much as I'd love to say "I told you so" I don't even really want to. Although I have been fairly heavily stating that Nintendo was going to drop the ball on this, deep down I kind of hoped that they'd make me eat my words, or at the very least share the fate of the Dreamcast (a failure, but only because it was ahead of its time). But after seeing this, I don't possibly see how anyone can take them seriously as a game developer. Who cares about Super Smash Brothers Online if you have to control Link with a TV remote?

I'll still holf my breath to see what kind of games Nintendo can come up with for this. I find it hard to criticise Nintendo for this when I feel more pity and sympathy than anything else. It appears the reign of Nintendo in the videogame industry is over, possibly forever.
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Wow, I cant believe people are critiscizing this harshly by just looks. Although I am completely prepared for this to fail, I dont see how people can predict the future this well. Ive read countless interviews of actual gamers who played FPS and other games and said it is perfectly fine for those games (at the moment im still trying to track down those interviews).
 
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After seeing this last night, I had myself a drink...went to bed...woke up the next morning and said "Okay it's not so bad...if you look at it a different way".

It's gonna take me a while, but I think I can accept this...
 
Re: Here it is people the moment we've all been waiting for

creepindeth04 said:
Wow, I cant believe people are critiscizing this harshly by just looks. Although I am completely prepared for this to fail, I dont see how people can predict the future this well. Ive read countless interviews of actual gamers who played FPS and other games and said it is perfectly fine for those games (at the moment im still trying to track down those interviews).
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I'd very muchly like to see those interviews. As an avid FPS gamer, I can assert that a single analog stick, plus a D-pad and four buttons is not enough for a good FPS. Maybe other games, but I'd like to see how this works.
 
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SpartanEvolved said:
I'd very muchly like to see those interviews. As an avid FPS gamer, I can assert that a single analog stick, plus a D-pad and four buttons is not enough for a good FPS. Maybe other games, but I'd like to see how this works.
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Sure, ill try to get them as soon as possible.
 
Re: Here it is people the moment we've all been waiting for

Since apparently, you can rotate the remote to look around, like it said in that Metroid Prime 2 conversion, but that game has lock-on targeting, if I'm not mistaken. In a game, ecspecially a multiplayer game, you would have little precision over your aiming.
 
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SpartanEvolved said:
Since apparently, you can rotate the remote to look around, like it said in that Metroid Prime 2 conversion, but that game has lock-on targeting, if I'm not mistaken. In a game, ecspecially a multiplayer game, you would have little precision over your aiming.
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I believe it also said that you can take it off and you dont have to use it.
 
Re: Here it is people the moment we've all been waiting for

well it definitley is going to be interesting how this plays out. Like I said in other posts, I think Im leaning towards the 360.
 
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Personally, I think Nintendo is trying to break the mold too drastically. Their normal "innovation" was expected, ecspecially because of the secrecy, but if this was all they could come up with they are in trouble. You aren't likely to see very many ports from the 360 or PS3 to this. I just think Nintendo is taking too big of a risk. From what I've read, they are already becoming the laughing stock of the next gen.

"Somewhere, Bill Gates is laughing his head off."
 
Re: Here it is people the moment we've all been waiting for

Here is just a short snippet from IGN.com: http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651224p3.html

Shooters
Popular example: Metroid Prime, TimeSplitters

How it might work: Using Nintendo's controller to navigate first-person shooters is going to be an amazingly empowering, freeing experience. We know this because Nintendo demoed a modified version of Metroid Prime 2 Echoes using the new peripheral, and the potential is undeniably jaw-dropping. In the demo, players could move Samus through the environments with the attached analog trigger. The need to lock-on to enemies, however, was been eliminated, thanks to a new level of precision aiming made possible with the pointer. In a level of accuracy rivaled only by a PC mouse configuration, gamers could simply use the device to point and shoot.


Nintendo fans got a taste of this play mechanic in the demo of Metroid Prime Hunters for DS, but Revolution's pointer is comparatively far more robust, enabling quick and dead-on targeting and the ability to turn on a dime. Developer Retro Studios apparently created the Prime 2 demo in order to test the waters, so to speak, for its upcoming Metroid Prime 3. The studio has a lot of control options at its disposal. Imagine a setup as follows. The attached nunchuck analog stick moves Samus Aran through the game world and the pointer is utilized for precise gunplay. Gamers jump with the oversized A button located beneath the pointer's D-Pad and they shoot with the device's underbelly trigger. Players press up, down, left and right on the conveniently placed D-Pad to switch between visors. Meanwhile, switching weapons will be just as easy. Holding down one of the trigger buttons on the analog stick will transform the D-Pad into a primary weapon select, at which point up, down, left and right on the D-Pad enable different guns. Press down the other button on the analog stick and secondary weapons become available to the D-Pad. Sounds great, right? But how the hell does Samus change into her classic morphball shape and further, how might that be controlled? There are all sorts of possibilities. Gamers could simply make a single downward stabbing motion with the pointer in order to trigger Aran's ball form and then stab upward again to regain her natural composure. When in morphball, Samus could be directed with the pointer with perfect precision. Wow! Bring it.
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Re: Here it is people the moment we've all been waiting for

SpartanEvolved said:
Personally, I think Nintendo is trying to break the mold too drastically. Their normal "innovation" was expected, ecspecially because of the secrecy, but if this was all they could come up with they are in trouble. You aren't likely to see very many ports from the 360 or PS3 to this. I just think Nintendo is taking too big of a risk. From what I've read, they are already becoming the laughing stock of the next gen.

"Somewhere, Bill Gates is laughing his head off."
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Well first of all, this is still a prototype, it's still not complete. Second, it offers something different, not better than the other controllers. In a way it does offer more. As for ports, yes that is one of my concerns, but I can count on Nintendo take advantage of it with their own franchises, and quite frankly that's enough for me. I can always play a PS3 and xbox to play other games. As for them being laughed at, it's still premature, if people want to critiscize before even laying a finger on the controller than whatever, thats their choice. Im not surprised as people would rather have something that is "cool" and "popular" rather than something different.
 
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Hm. Taking it at face value, I'd say it's the single biggest mistake that Nintendo can do. BUT, looking at it a different way, I think it is brilliant!!! Let us compare it to a PS2 controller. We have the standard run-of-the-mill D pad. We have two analog sticks. Start and select. And a plethora of buttons. Some of which I have never in my life have used. Has anyone ever used the square or triangle?? And two R and two L buttons?? Hm. Now back to the Nintendo "masterpiece." What have all the rumors been saying about this controller?? I'm thinking character movement with the turn of the wrist. The D pad is extra, in my opinion.
Although I find the design a bit odd, I am sure the game play will truly be "revolutionary."
 
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Here is a funny flash that I got a kick out of.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v507/mousedown/revo.swf

PS: Whether or not Nintendo is going to beat MS is yet to be determined. It's like a long shot.
 
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ok my thought on this controller are very mixed... First of all I would like to know how to play racing games, MGS, Splinter Cell, and fighting games on this controller? I just cant see how this will be done. FPS will prbably be good on this controller because you will be able to aim by moving the controller and move with the analog stick, but after that I dont think it has enough buttons. Correct if I'm wrong, but I believe it has 1 trigger or B button, an A button, and a D-pad. I just dont get how this will be enough buttons.
Nintendo is getting to a point where there innovation is nothing, but a gimmick. To me it just seems that they're putting originality over quality. This controller will change the way we play games, but it has yet to be determined if the change will be good or bad.

And Dart are you serious? I mean 4 shoulder buttons make games like Madden, NBA Street, and FPS easier to play. Madden needs them so you can stiff arm and juke at the same time without letting go of turbo. NBA Street needs them so you have more options when doing tricks to get trick points. FPS need them because when you play games like Halo you can shoot, throw grenades, change grenade type, and turn on your flashlight without letting go of the right analog stick which you need to aim. Plus almost all games that I play do use all the button and I don't really think it's that complex nor do I think the buttons are useless.
 
So, what do you people think of the New Nintendo controller? Are they going in the right direction towards innovating the gaming world... or is this the start of Nintendo's downfall?

Link to video presentation of the Revo controller unvieling, as well as screens, and in-depth information:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/09/15/news_6133335.html?q=1&tag=gs_hp_flashtop_read
 
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I voted to wait and see. The thing I dont get is why so many people are calling this a failure when it hasnt hit the market yet. Not only that but it's not even finalized yet. Oh well, can't please everyone.
 
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I voted undecided because I'm not sure about this controller... yet ;)
 
Re: Here it is people the moment we've all been waiting for

Fatty said:
ok my thought on this controller are very mixed... First of all I would like to know how to play racing games, MGS, Splinter Cell, and fighting games on this controller? I just cant see how this will be done. FPS will prbably be good on this controller because you will be able to aim by moving the controller and move with the analog stick, but after that I dont think it has enough buttons. Correct if I'm wrong, but I believe it has 1 trigger or B button, an A button, and a D-pad. I just dont get how this will be enough buttons.
Nintendo is getting to a point where there innovation is nothing, but a gimmick. To me it just seems that they're putting originality over quality. This controller will change the way we play games, but it has yet to be determined if the change will be good or bad.
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Whats wrong with originality? Originality doesnt automatically mean that quality will suffer. There are plenty of original games that are released on the PS2 and xbox, yet they were great games (ie, Katamri Damacy). If Nintendo isn't willing to be original then who will? If it flops, then it flops, if it's a hit then it's a hit. We will still have PS3 and xbox 360 to fall back on. The gaming industry needs someone to try different things so that it wont get stale. At the very least this will help Sony and MS in figuring out what to do, or more importantly what not to do. Nintendo has come out with shoulder buttons, analog sticks and rumble features. All of which are standard in Sony's and MS's systems. So I applaud Nintendo for not having any fear in releasing something as different as the Revolution.
 
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