Whales are pretty smart !!!
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creepindeth04
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Thats pretty cool. Evolution is a wonderful thing sometimes.
creepindeth04
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Dart said:Pssst. "Killer whales" aren't whales at all. It's an orcha.
I'd have to dissagree. Mainly because I don't believe evolution doesn't explain the beginning of life. Well, at least according to National Geographic. I am a Creationist.
What? So the fact that we came from very simple organisms a long time ago isnt enough for you? I'd choose evolution over creationism any day. It's not even scientifically possible, nor can you prove it.
maiden fan
All Hail Eddie
creepindeth04 said:
oh god are we gonna have a big "how it all started" argument here :
. Those never end!!! :-\So there is evidence of a steady evolutionary process?? Oddly enough even scientists can't agree if there is one or not. And since I can't place faith in a "theory" nor can I place my faith in a scientific community who can't agree. I do admit the whole concept is complex. But there are ideas and beliefs about the "How" that are opposites on the spectrum.
With Creationism, not only does it make sense, it solves many of the questions that boggle the human mind. It also makes way for having a foundation from which we can safely judge what is good and what is evil. We can now have a Creator to look to instead of cheapining the value of life and making our purpose here meaningless.
I am not prepared for a debate, nor am I willing to start an argument. I merely stated that I didn't believe that evolution is true.
No Maiden. No arguments at all, trust me.
With Creationism, not only does it make sense, it solves many of the questions that boggle the human mind. It also makes way for having a foundation from which we can safely judge what is good and what is evil. We can now have a Creator to look to instead of cheapining the value of life and making our purpose here meaningless.
I am not prepared for a debate, nor am I willing to start an argument. I merely stated that I didn't believe that evolution is true.
No Maiden. No arguments at all, trust me.
maiden fan
All Hail Eddie
and it begins :lol
creepindeth04
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Dart said:So there is evidence of a steady evolutionary process?? Oddly enough even scientists can't agree if there is one or not. And since I can't place faith in a "theory" nor can I place my faith in a scientific community who can't agree. I do admit the whole concept is complex. But there are ideas and beliefs about the "How" that are opposites on the spectrum.
With Creationism, not only does it make sense, it solves many of the questions that boggle the human mind. It also makes way for having a foundation from which we can safely judge what is good and what is evil. We can now have a Creator to look to instead of cheapining the value of life and making our purpose here meaningless.
I am not prepared for a debate, nor am I willing to start an argument. I merely stated that I didn't believe that evolution is true.
No Maiden. No arguments at all, trust me.
I know and I merely stated why I dont believe in creationism. By the way religion isnt needed to be able to judge what is good and what is evil nor is it required to be a good person. It's all based on faith and nothing more. Id rather believe scientists and things that can be proven rather than simple faith. Oh and creationism doesnt solve anything. I dont want to turn this into a religious thread either but a quick question, what does it solve? It seems more like a bunch of contradictions made up by man. More so than some scientists with evolution.
maiden fan
All Hail Eddie
i know im trying to prevent the argument but i HAVE to agree withh creepin on that
you said you cant believe in a theory but creationism is one big theory
you said you cant believe in a theory but creationism is one big theory
creepindeth04
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maiden fan said:
Its cool, Im trying to keep it from an argument. More like a debate. I will personally make sure no flaming occurs and hopefully Dart doesnt take my comments as attacking his faith.
maiden fan
All Hail Eddie
same here im not bad mouthing you or your faith dude
creepindeth04
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By the way, Ive always wanted to see whales on some kind of boat trip or something Has anybody else seen them?
maiden fan
All Hail Eddie
no but ive gone in a sharck cage in a shark tank at sea world.
that was amazing
that was amazing
creepindeth04
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maiden fan said:
Nice, Ive never gotten the chance to go to Seaworld. :'(
I've seen some humpbacks in the San Francisco bay area once. I got to take a boat ride in the bay, and I was like the only one not throwing up overboard. Unfortunately I never got to set foot on Alcatraz...creepindeth04 said:
As for the whole evolution/creationism debate. I don't resort to insults to prove a case. It doesn't help and all it does is alienate people. But sometimes I do seem to use sarcasm. That is the main reason I don't like debates in this form of media. Text either makes emotion too powerfull or not powerfull enough. And emphesis sometimes relies on just a touch of emotion.
The best way to explain my case is to ask you to read A Case for Faith and A Case For Christ by Lee Strobel. He's an athiest-turned-pastor who actually spent a lot of his time and his talents as a journalist to interview scholars from just about every scientific field. And his case is very strong.
maiden fan
All Hail Eddie
yeah it was a pretty cool package deal I got to go in the shark cage and swim with and feed the stingrays. that was really cool you just hold a little chunk of frozen meat in your hand right on top of the water and the sting rays would swim up on top of your hand and suck the food off. its cool watching them all swimming around you waiting for more food.
creepindeth04
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Dart said:
Cool Ill look into that. I like reading that kind of literature.
maiden fan
All Hail Eddie
me too im not a big fan of religious literature but i like hearing other peoples sides of things especially when they back it up really well
SpartanEvolved
SpartanEvolved
Evolution vs Creationism is a pointless "debate". Niether side budges enough to make any difference, and both are based off of things that CANNOT be proven.
BTW, A Case For Christ is supposed to be good. My parents are reading it for their Bible study class.
BTW, A Case For Christ is supposed to be good. My parents are reading it for their Bible study class.
I agree to an extent. The main problem that stops me from debating is the potential for insults. It's human nature to attack the debator instead of the case when they feel cornered. And I agree that there is no hard evidence on both sides. But the circumstantial evidence that supports creationism is the same amount that can put away a murder suspect in a court of law. I won't say the same for evolution because obviously I am biased.SpartanEvolved said: