DEAR GOD NO!!!! Bungie leave Halo?....

Yes it does affect that. Because you seem to have this gripe over Halo because of it's story, when games you like don't have one...nor a book to back it up. Tell me how that doesn't affect that? If you would have said from the get-go "Halo doesn't have much of a story IMO" and left it at that, it would have been fine. But you kept dragging it on. I think you just don't like it cause of how popular it is. Do you even own an xbox or 360?
 
Strubes said:
Yes it does affect that. Because you seem to have this gripe over Halo because of it's story, when games you like don't have one...nor a book to back it up. Tell me how that doesn't affect that? If you would have said from the get-go "Halo doesn't have much of a story IMO" and left it at that, it would have been fine. But you kept dragging it on. I think you just don't like it cause of how popular it is. Do you even own an xbox or 360?
Yes. I own a 360 and have both Halo's (well, I got rid of the original cause I got bored with it). Plus, my only gripe with it isn't the story. The game play was just completely average in my opinion, and I went into Halo expecting the great game I had heard about. Instead, I found myself playing an average (remember my opinion) and entirely uninspired experience. The game wasn't horrible. It was a solid game that was good enough to play through, but going in expecting a phenomenal game just left me generally disappointed in it.

And yes, part of my gripe with Halo is the fact that it sells millions of copies and isn't a game worthy of that attention or sales figures (from my perspective).
 
Homicidal Cherry53 said:
Neither Zelda or Metroid is known for having great storylines. Metroid Prime doesn't


did you?


hold on



let me take this in




you actually believe that zelda isnt known for a good storyline?




I



just dont seem to understand
 
Hinesmdc said:
did you?


hold on



let me take this in




you actually believe that zelda isnt known for a good storyline?




I



just dont seem to understand

:lol I sure hope he isn't thinking Zelda's known for it's game play then. :lol

@ Homi, if you go into ANY game thinking it's going to be phenominal, you're going to be let down. Just sucks that that's what happened to you. And yes it's your opinion that Halo doesn't deserve it's sales, but millions of others would disagree there. Although you don't like it cause of it's game play or story or whatever, doesn't mean it didn't have a great story or game play to others. 8)
 
Yes. Zelda's story has been pretty much the same in almost all of the games, with the exception of Majora's Mask who's story was quite good. The story's are never horrible, but are never anything special.
Strubes said:
:lol I sure hope he isn't thinking Zelda's known for it's game play then. :lol
Considering it basically invented an entire genre of games, yeah, I am. Yes, you don't like Zelda, but you can't deny the huge contribution it has given to video games. Plus, you not liking Zelda is the same thing as me not liking Halo: we are both in a big minority. :lol
Strubes said:
@ Homi, if you go into ANY game thinking it's going to be phenominal, you're going to be let down. Just sucks that that's what happened to you. And yes it's your opinion that Halo doesn't deserve it's sales, but millions of others would disagree there. Although you don't like it cause of it's game play or story or whatever, doesn't mean it didn't have a great story or game play to others. 8)
Plenty of others haven't let me down when I thought that.

Yes, millions would disagree with me. Like I said before, I'm in the minority. :lol
 
Hinesmdc said:
doesnt think zelda has a good story??

why???

what do you think has a good story?
Because, it never changes. I'm not the only one who thinks this. Many people were kind of disappointed in the story of TP, just because its just a similar plotline, repeated. How many times can you save Zelda from kidnappers before you get sick of it...but, again, I don't play Zelda for a story...

Like I said before, Zelda MM, basically anything Bioware has ever made (excluding NWN), Planescape: Torment (older CRPG and I think it has one of the best stories I've ever seen), quite a few of the Final Fantasy games (most I've played in fact), Half Life (both), and others I can't think of right off the top of my head...
 
well alot of ppl dont play zelda and and halo and all those games for a story, they play it because it looks good and their senseless violence and killing :P
 
the guy from shadow of the colossus nvr says a word other than his horses name

and dont start the story not mattering crap


also, here are some others:
halflife
halflife 2
ninja gaiden
oblivion (!!!!)

all those games have excellent stories......that people sure as hell care about.


EDIT - *high fives strubes*
 
This thread is really active...

Anyways, as a big sci-fi book fan I personally think that the Halo books are some of the better sci-fi books out there. Eric Nylund is a fantastic author and he does a great job at expanding the Halo universe.

The reason the games do not really show the whole depth of the story is because Bungie does not want people who have not read the books but played the games to become lost.
 
GamingMaiden said:
I have a idea!! >_< It'll ROCK YOUR SOCKS!!!!! ;D
Speak your mind then!

@ those who say Zelda has no story line. What? Last I checked, it basically does have a very big story line behind it. Though it may perhaps be similar for each game, there is one there. Same with halo. Read the books, there is a story line behind the entire thing! One you probably never even imagined. The only reason that the game expresses a poor veiw of the story is the fact that it follows but two characters. Master Cheif, and the Arbitor. Because of that, we miss a whole lot of the contraversy that actually goes behind the lines. But for a good reason, it isn't made to have all that. The game is supposed to be a fast past action shooter. Not a adventure into the unknown!

SpartanEvolved said:
This thread is really active...

Anyways, as a big sci-fi book fan I personally think that the Halo books are some of the better sci-fi books out there. Eric Nylund is a fantastic author and he does a great job at expanding the Halo universe.

The reason the games do not really show the whole depth of the story is because Bungie does not want people who have not read the books but played the games to become lost.
Full concurance.
 
SpartanEvolved said:
This thread is really active...

Anyways, as a big sci-fi book fan I personally think that the Halo books are some of the better sci-fi books out there. Eric Nylund is a fantastic author and he does a great job at expanding the Halo universe.

The reason the games do not really show the whole depth of the story is because Bungie does not want people who have not read the books but played the games to become lost.
That's entirely possible. I've never read the books so maybe your right, but I'm just judging the game's story. Of course, the game isn't exactly supposed to be story-driven either...
 
Voice acting doesn't make a game, I agree. That's a weak argument. But Zelda is unique in the fact that it utilizes Nintendo's brain and brawn in making the series, as well as that keen originality we all love about the big 'N. Halo? Just another generic shooter that's famous for it's multiplayer, as would be expected of Microsoft, the self-proclaimed, "Kings of online". What do they have to back this up? A bunch of mindless shooters that all involve killing some race of extraterrestrial beings or the mastermind behind an invasion. Sony? I give Sony kudos. They may be stupid, but they're not cocky. They didn't sway the audience of E3 this year with numbers and statistics saying how they pwn Nintendo and Microsoft, no. They showed us that they can improve, and are making an effort to do so. If Microsoft keeps making these blood-filled gore fests, they will find themselves in a pot of hot water to the extreme. How much more of these shooters can the public take? I can't tell you that, but I can tell you that it will get very old, very soon. Microsoft needs to up their game by getting a grip on reality and realizing that making shooters won't always be their salvation. That's why this is a good move for Bungie. To leap into other genres, other than shooters. Because being smart, clever, and original is the key to gaming success.

~Jack
 
Jack said:
Voice acting doesn't make a game, I agree. That's a weak argument. But Zelda is unique in the fact that it utilizes Nintendo's brain and brawn in making the series, as well as that keen originality we all love about the big 'N. Halo? Just another generic shooter that's famous for it's multiplayer, as would be expected of Microsoft, the self-proclaimed, "Kings of online". What do they have to back this up? A bunch of mindless shooters that all involve killing some race of extraterrestrial beings or the mastermind behind an invasion. Sony? I give Sony kudos. They may be stupid, but they're not cocky. They didn't sway the audience of E3 this year with numbers and statistics saying how they pwn Nintendo and Microsoft, no. They showed us that they can improve, and are making an effort to do so. If Microsoft keeps making these blood-filled gore fests, they will find themselves in a pot of hot water to the extreme. How much more of these shooters can the public take? I can't tell you that, but I can tell you that it will get very old, very soon. Microsoft needs to up their game by getting a grip on reality and realizing that making shooters won't always be their salvation. That's why this is a good move for Bungie. To leap into other genres, other than shooters. Because being smart, clever, and original is the key to gaming success.
Just, to let you all know, I never meant that voice acting makes a game (although it can help). I was saying that Master Chief's character is very shallow in the games because there's never any character development, through words or actions. Otherwise though, I agree 100% with your post...except for the thing about Bungie not making shooters. That doesn't work out too well because its always been their specialty, even back to the Marathon games. It would be like Squinex saying they're never gonna make an RPG again...
 
Does it hurt to try something new? Criterion went strayed away from Burnout and make an awesome shooter, (yes, ironic, I know) "Black". That game was better than any other war game I had ever experienced. That just shows that companies can do other things, other than their specialities.
 
Jack said:
Does it hurt to try something new? Criterion went strayed away from Burnout and make an awesome shooter, (yes, ironic, I know) "Black". That game was better than any other war game I had ever experienced. That just shows that companies can do other things, other than their specialities.
It couldn't really hurt, but sometimes it is better to stay with what you know. Could they actually make a good RPG, or RTS, or other kind of game? We don't know. Plus, a bunch of Halo fanboys would riot.
 
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, "If Bungie is that big a deal, don't buy the damn Halo games."

But that's just me.
 
fhqwhgads said:
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, "If Bungie is that big a deal, don't buy the darn Halo games."

But that's just me.
The point is, the Halo universe is Bungie's own IP so if they aren't making one, no one will be. I honestly don't want to see any more Halo games after 3 because it seems like Bungie's out of ANY new ideas.
 
Homicidal Cherry53 said:
Well, the games do a poor job of showing it then. Halo's storyline was pretty run of the mill, and Halo 2, while trying to improve by showing the Covenant side of the conflict, failed miserably.

Halo 2 didn't fit in anywhere with the books, which was why personally the campaign disappointed me. I'm hoping they fix that detail with Halo 3's campaign.
 
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