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fhqwhgads
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I mean, I agree, it is stupid, but how are aliens any less believable than half the stuff Jesus did?
MegaDrive20XX
Segatron Genesis... call me the wizard.
Because Jesus turned water...into FUNK!!
Seriously, I don't know...lol I think alot of people find Alien lifeforms to be just nothing more than just fictional characters, so it's hard to take it seriously I would say.
Seriously, I don't know...lol I think alot of people find Alien lifeforms to be just nothing more than just fictional characters, so it's hard to take it seriously I would say.
blacklemons
The Freeman
i agree, but there is some pretty striking evidence about the things jesus did
as for scientology, it literally was made up by a science fiction writer about twenty years ago. no joke, thats where it came from.
as for scientology, it literally was made up by a science fiction writer about twenty years ago. no joke, thats where it came from.
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But, let's face facts for a second, not trying to downgrade religion or anything, haven't we come closer to finding proof of aliens than proof of God?
Yes, I know, but people only make fun of it because it's an unbelievable idea.Hinesmdc said:
blacklemons
The Freeman
Polygon said:
Absolutely. [/pwn3d]
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Jesus turning water into wine is more believable than there being life somewhere else? I'm not saying Scientology is right on anything, people just make fun of it because it involves aliens.Polygon said:
blacklemons
The Freeman
No, they make fun of it because it involves aliens coming to earth and freezing everything. and a lot of other ridiculous things that never happened.
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Go see if your parents make fun of Scientology. Then ask them what the Scientologists think happened. Most of the people who rip on it have no clue about the story behind it.Hinesmdc said:
It's got as much proof as the Bible. :/
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Yeah, exactly, everyone's already on the God idea, and sadly, they are equally lacking in proof.x2 said:
fhqwhgads said:
Look, I do believe in aliens. My religion believes that God created other beings. The Bible is a compilation of what people claimed to have witnessed thousands of years ago. Granted, as time goes on people tend to turn personal accounts into mythology. I can't prove God exists but I sure believe it. Take the Earth for instance. It rotates on a 23 1/2° axis. Because of this we have the weather patterns we do. Now, the Earth proto planet rotated at 90° and something large had to have hit us to knock us onto that axis. That something, along with the debris from the impact coagulated into the Earth and the Moon. The Moon is also responsible for weather patterns and the tides. Without those two things life would be a lot different on Earth if any life were possible at all.
It seems to me that someone wanted there to be life on this planet and it seem less like coincidence. Especially when you look at the scope of it. I believe that science is an explanation of the way God does things. He invented the laws of physics, don't you think he'd abide by them?
To me that is FAR more believable that a science FICTION novel by L. Ron Hubbard.
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You can't use logic when it comes to faith, that's why it's called faith.
fhqwhgads said:
Actually, it has less. Scientology is based on a book written by L. Ron Hubbard who will tell you flat out that it's made up. They sell it in the science fiction section for a reason. However, you can't prove the Bible false anymore that I can prove to you it's not.
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When I look at the scope, it seems the opposite. With how big the universe is, it's very possible everything had to be right at least once. Not to mention, life adapts, so at an early stage, we would have a large(by scientific standards, which are actually quite small) window of which we could grow to live in. And, hate to go this far, but with evolution pretty much proven, doesn't that cut out the part of the bible that says God just made man? I'm not doubting either side, I'm just saying...Polygon said:
Once again, you are allowed to believe what you want, but there's no hard evidence for either side.
We're not talking about faith, we're talking about why Scientology is that unbelievable compared to half the bible.
How do you know the novel isn't like the bible? Both are just bases for the religion. People shape their own thoughts around both, and believe what they choose. You don't have to think the bible is fact if you want to believe in God, you just have to believe in God. The bible is just a way to unite the people who think it. Not to mention, no proof(again) that the bible isn't fiction. Shouldn't really matter if it's fiction or not, like you said, can't use logic when it comes to faith.
You're talking about the Bible and calling belief in it illogical. That is faith and can't be held to logic. Having faith in and of itself is illogical. As I said, the book is sold in the science fiction section for a reason. The author will tell you he made it up. Next thing you know people will actually start practicing Jedi and you'll question why I would call it silly.
That's why I rip on Scientology. All you need to do is look at the video of Tom Cruise explaining it and you can't help but be weirded out.
That's why I rip on Scientology. All you need to do is look at the video of Tom Cruise explaining it and you can't help but be weirded out.
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Nooo, I'm asking why Scientology is that illogical compared to it. Preach faith all you want, both are on the same level, it's just that most people are biased about it.Polygon said:
Uh huh, I've heard.
Read my base point.
You'd say it's silly because it's different. No matter what, you will. Scientologists think that Christianity isn't believable, you don't think Scientology is, neither one is wrong, and everyone still feels the need to say it's a dumb idea because it's not theirs.
I can tell you haven't read the thread.Strubes said:
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I'm not debunking anything. :/ You're still missing the whole point.Strubes said:Read the whole thing. I agree with Polygon's previous post though.
It is all too common in today's age for people to try and debunk the Bible and such, and try and point out these facts. Just believe what you want.
mrs_enigma
Here is a lil smile for ya :)
In my opinion, none of the faiths seem to be much more then just that...faith.
So, I just like to believe in some nice God out there who is like a nice dad.
Aliens sound spooky and scary, so I do not want to believe in them.
I do not like to believe in a jealous/vengeance style God though either. I like a nice loving one. I do not really care if it makes sense or not, or even if it is true or not. I just like how it feels to me.
From my standpoint of view..I have seen about as much "evidence" of aliens as I have of God, but I choose to believe in one and not the other. It is all just "feelings"...what I "choose" to believe.
So, I just like to believe in some nice God out there who is like a nice dad.
Aliens sound spooky and scary, so I do not want to believe in them.
I do not like to believe in a jealous/vengeance style God though either. I like a nice loving one. I do not really care if it makes sense or not, or even if it is true or not. I just like how it feels to me.
From my standpoint of view..I have seen about as much "evidence" of aliens as I have of God, but I choose to believe in one and not the other. It is all just "feelings"...what I "choose" to believe.